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Axis P3367-VE Outdoor 5MP Vandal Dome Review

I’m skeptical when it comes to higher resolution cameras because of low light sensitivity, but the Axis P3367-VE does a really good job in low light, not just for being a 5MP camera, for any camera. As with the previous P33 series I reviewed, this has motorized zoom lens and remote focus making it an easy camera to install. Very well constructed with cast aluminum body and reasonably sized for a vandal dome.

Main Features

  • 2592 x 1944 resolution (5MP) at 12fps
  • 3MP at 20fps or 1080P at 30fps
  • 1/3.2″ progressive scan RGB sensor
  • 3-9mm F1.2 lens
  • Outdoor-ready design with extended temperature range
  • Easy installation with remote focus and zoom
  • Wide Dynamic Range (WDR)
  • Multiple H.264 streams
  • Day/night functionality
  • Power over Ethernet

The P33 series is the top of the line for Axis fixed domes that includes all the features one could want like day/night IR cut filter, motorized focus and zoom, 3-axis manual lens adjustment and the Edge Storage feature with an SD card slot.

The P3367 has 5MP resolution (2592×1944) which feels huge. While most people’s TV’s or PC monitors can only view video at 1080P (1920×1080), having the extra resolution to either use the camera’s virtual PTZ feature or to take snapshots that have 2 1/2 times the resolution of a 1080P camera comes in handy to identify a person or car. While some brands, the higher you go in resolution the lower the low light sensitivity, this camera does extremely well in low light while still in color mode. Switching to night mode requires the use of an external illuminators which I’ve used in my testing, but actually, if you can provide a small amount of white light, this camera is best left in color mode as the image appears sharper.

As other cameras in the Axis P33 series, it can be installed in a harsh climate, -40f to 131F or -40C to 55C, (not sure there are many places on earth that exceed these limits). If this is your case, then this may be the camera to get.

This is what the web interface looks like when you first connect to the camera from a web browser. This is a very typical Axis interface which is comforting to know that from their lowest priced camera to their most complex and expensive camera, the interface remains familiar. What makes this unique is that in order to make a 5MP image feasible on common PC screens is the button in the upper left, the square with the arrow in it. Clicking on this shrinks the image to make it viewable on typical monitors. Then on the bottom and right hand side, you have virtual PTZ controls to zoom in to the higher resolution image, then pan/tilt around the image.

Clicking Setup takes you to all the available camera settings. For example, in Basic Setup you can set the camera’s clock, the IP address and such. Below is where you tweak the camera image settings are under Video & Audio, Camera Settings.

A nice feature is that this camera can be focused and zoomed from the comfort of your browser. Saves a ton of time pre-focusing and then re-focusing on the ladder trying to get the perfect focus and focal length. This feature worked the best out of any camera I’ve tested with this feature. You can also select the zone you want to use for focus which came in handy when I wanted to focus on the car, not the houses in the distance.

Motion detection is under Detectors and is set by creating motion detect windows. If you are using Axis Camera Companion (ACC), skip this step as it has its own motion detectors it uses.

You setup video streams here, and as you can see, I set it for the full 5MP.

Now onto the images, how well does this camera perform. I mounted the camera at the front of my garage set the varifocal lens to near its wide-angle. As with my other reviews, click on the images below to see the full size image, straight from the camera.

This fist image I turned WDR off so you can compare it to the same image with it on.

I took WDR images at different levels, low medium and high so you can see what effect different settings have. I did notice more grain/noise the stronger the WDR level. If you need WDR, you may want to experiment to find what the lowest setting is that meets you needs.  The idea of WDR for those not familiar is to have a wider dynamic range so you can see details that may be lost in high contrast situations like shadows or bright lights. This is the same image with WDR set to LOW

This is the same image with WDR set to MEDIUM

And finally, WDR set to it’s maximum setting

At night, the camera did surprisingly well with just my house lights on which are three 13w fluorescent bulbs (60W incandescent equivalents). This would be a less expensive way to go than buying external IR illuminators. This is an image with WDR turned off. Even with WDR off, you still get good detail, you can see into the car.

This is a night image with WDR set on (medium). I purposely put the high beams on, shining towards the camera, worst case scenario but you can still read the plates.

This is an image with the front house lights off and you can see it switches to night mode in black & white. This has WDR mode on so you can see the increased detail at the expense of contrast. This requires external illuminators and for this test case, I’m using a the built-in illuminators from another camera.

 

Videos

 

Axis Edge Storage

The advantage of the camera being able to record to a local SD card or to Network Attached Storage (NAS) is that you can record without having to purchase a PC or Network Video Recorder (NVR) to record. It will record on its own and it works quite well. The only problem is that it’s not easy to find what you want and if you have several cameras, it can be tedious to log into each for forensic analysis or even to view activity in your home or business from all cameras at once.

To solve this problem, Axis came out with free Axis Camera Companion (ACC) software. It lets the cameras do the heavy lifting of motion detection, alerts and recording and they provide ACC to view and configure the cameras from any PC. Because the cameras are doing the heavy lifting, just about any PC can be used to run ACC and you only run it when you need to view the cameras, so it’s environmentally friendly as you don’t have to leave an NVR or PC running 24/7.  Click HERE for more information on ACC.

The street price for this camera is about $1,300 and considering the special capabilities, Axis reputation of excellent service and support and no need for an NVR or NVR software to record, it’s a good value.

 

Conclusions

The pluses for this camera are;

  • 5MP
  • Wide Dynamic Range
  • Motorized focus and zoom for easy setup
  • Extreme weather capabilities from a low of -40F to a high of 131F
  • Edge Storage (recording to SD card or NAS)
  • Free Axis Camera Companion Software
  • Smartphone apps available
  • Excellent Axis Customer Service and Support
  • Day/Night IR Cut Filter
  • 2-way audio

Where I would use this camera is where you need to cover a wide area yet still have plenty of resolution for identification purposes. Also, in an extreme weather area. While this is not their low light camera with Lightfinder, it’s pretty close.

Axis P3367 Camera spec sheet can be found HERE

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KZ
KZ
1 year 6 months ago

Hey there, i just did some looking and realized that several of Axis’s camera models can be upgraded to have their digital auto tracking feature. I’ve seen videos on youtube of this model of camera having that feature enabled and it looks pretty awesome tracking objects and zooming in/moving. Have you played with that feature at all? And would that auto tracking feature work still if you wanted to record to a hikvision or dahua NVR? If not, maybe a NAS box? Just was curious on your thoughts! Thanks i appreciate all your time you put into this site and answering our questions.

Gerred
Gerred
2 years 25 days ago

I can tell you that running this Axis P3367-VE camera on 5MP and its 12fps on the MJPEG codec will not be possible on a 100Mb/s switch while the bandwidth needed will be far more than 300Mb/s while 1fps at 5MP uncompressed MJPEG consumes already a whopping 32Mb/s. Personally I hate the H.264 codec for such advanced high quality camera while it is a very cheap compressing technique with a lot of losses. The MJPEG is much better while each frame consists of a uncompressed JPEG picture.

John
John
3 years 1 month ago

Thanks! I will open a ticket with Axis after the holidays.

It is dark outside right now and the first night installed outdoors. It is mounted where previously I had my Vivotech 8362 mounted. It blows away the Vivotech a millions time over. There is absolutely no close comparison. I briefly had a 3mp Hikvision mini bullet mounted just prior to mounting this Axis P3367. I will admit the Hikvision will give the Axis P3367 a run for the money during daylight (except for the obvious resolution size), but when it gets dark, the Axis is far superior. My Axis P3367 is still in day mode in very low light and is showing details in crisp color whereas the Hikvision would have already switched to night mode in full IR. If I can resolve the ghosting problem while viewing the h.264 video stream, it would be a perfect camera.

John
New Jersey

John
John
3 years 1 month ago
I just bought this model for my Christmas present and this morning I set it up overlooking the traffic. Overall it is a very good camera. Construction and ease of installation is what to expect from Axis. It runs perfectly with Milestone @ 5 mp. It can see extremely well in very low light w/o IR lighting. There is only ONE complaint I have and this is with AXIS cameras in general. When viewing fast moving images under h.264 such as a car going faster than 30 mph or simply focusing the camera on a ceiling fan, there are weird abnormalities that I noticed while viewing under IE and Google’s Chrome. For lack of a better description, there are clear signs of ghosting. This happens with ALL my Axis camera, from my M1114s to my Q6035-E. MJPEG runs without any problems. I could never figure out why this happens, yet my “el-cheapo” Dahua and Hikvisions run PERFECTLY under h.264 without any signs of abnormalities. I never really cared in the past since my old NVR monitoring/recording package only allowed MJPEG streams. I recently upgraded to Milestone to take advantage of additional features as well as the ability to view h.264… Read more »
Jeremy Stewart
Jeremy Stewart
3 years 3 months ago

Thanks for the review of this P Series…..I have a property that I want to monitor myself in Florida…so a HOT Climate. I want to use the P3364-LVE because it has night vision. However, it only comes in 1MP. and the other P series cams go as high as 5MP.
Wondering what your thoughts are of this cam and if I would be better served to go with a higher resolution cam and ditch the night vision since the light finder technology is great with these cams. There is a street light at the front of the property, but it gets pretty dark. Also as a cheaper alternative for the Backyard, I wanted to use the NEW M3024-LVE cam Axis just released. Id be really interested in what you think of this one.
Thanks, I really enjoy your Thorough Posts.

Spam Assassin
Spam Assassin
3 years 3 months ago

I just ordered the VE version so I’ll have to wait and verify this point when I take delivery. But Axis specs on their website show an asterisk in the built-in microphone column, stating “* not the -VE version”.

http://www.axis.com/products/p33_series/index.htm

I inferred from that that the VE version requires an external mike — it features a mic-in socket. Thus my interest in the cool looking (and expensive) mike they sell.

On my 5014, which has a built-in mike, the sound isn’t very good. I’d like to capture the sounds of birds, weather, thunder, and so on.

Spam Assassin
Spam Assassin
3 years 3 months ago

Nice pics and lovely home!
The Axis microphone looks pretty cool too,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B4TUMMM/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_10?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1CPWE4BUHBCWE

John
John
3 years 4 months ago

Hi Carl….. I am itching to buy a “real” camera after “playing” with my p.o.s. Dahua that got bricked doing a firmware update today….. I have the perfect spot for the P3367-VE that requires a target area wide, close and far for viewing.

My questions –
1)How is the h.264 image quality @ 5mp when compared to MJPEG at the same resolution? Any ghosting or weird things while viewing fast moving objects using h.264?
2) Will this work with Blue Iris @ high resolution w/o problems? I just purchased a Blue Iris license since I want to go h.264 with my other 12 Axis cameras. My current monitoring software (IVI View Commander) is super great and 100% reliable which I used for many years, but my version is not compatible with h.264. I would need to spend over a grand for their newer software and the addition licenses to run h.264.
3) Is this camera withstand a direct lightning strike? 🙂

John
New Jersey

Skull
Skull
3 years 4 months ago

It indeed has no real PTZ, however it does have digital PTZ. You can define a smaller area as a viewport and move that around like a real PTZ. In effect it’s a pretty pointless feature unless you want to record a smaller area for bandwidth reasons I guess.

Reggie
Reggie
3 years 4 months ago

Great review, Thanks.
My questions is:
(1) do I need a high power PoE for my P3367-ve for the PTZ function and if so what wattage should the high power PoE midspand be?
(2) What do I need for the two way audio? Do I need to run audio cable for the P3367-ve and do I need a speaker and a mic?
Thanks, your review has already been very helpful as I await delivery of my Axis P3367-ve
Reggie!

Skull
Skull
3 years 6 months ago
Hi, thanks for your review(s). I bought this camera, partly based on this review. Alongside I also bought a couple of other P33’s to be used depending on the situation. One thing that isn’t mentioned for this particular camera in this review, which I feel is important to know, is the “capture mode”. Here you tell the camera what resolution it should run it’s sensor on. And this has consequences. At ‘Capture mode’ 5MP you get 12 frames/s versus at 3MP where you get 20 frames/s and 1080p and 2MP, where you get 30 frames/s. So why is this important? Well, it turns out the capture mode has a big effect on the camera’s maximum field of view. The capture mode for all other (lower resolution) modes mentioned above are actually crops of the sensor, so in effect severely limiting its field of view. It is however possible to have the camera capture in, for example, 5MP@12frames/s and have it downsample to, for example, 3MP. But the frame rate can’t exceed the capture mode’s fixed setting. So if you need a higher frame rate AND a wide field of view, this is NOT the camera you should buy. Actually I… Read more »
JStew
JStew
3 years 6 months ago

Hey, Thanks for this Review. I have been comparing IP Dome Cams and want to make a decision on which to go with. I LOVE this cam, but the price is Really high…have you had a chance to look at Dlink’s DCS-6210? I know its only a 2mp cam in Comparison to Axis 5mp. But its 1/5 of the Price. I’m curious to get your take on it as I cant find a review on it anywhere.
Thanks,

Alan
Alan
3 years 9 months ago

Thanks for the reviews. Great stuff. I too am struggling to find the right camera for license plate capture on my street. Camera would be mounted on the eave of my garage about 25′ away from the middle of the street. I know it’s a difficult challenge for these cameras, I love the price/specs on a lot of the Acti line, but if I’m going to spend the money I want to get something that will succeed as often as possible. Considering this challenge and you’re experience with so many cams it would be really cool to see a shootout of all the cams you’ve reviewed so far and which gives the best results under all scenarios (day, night, distances, lighting, etc) Is it a reasonable expectation for a 3-5MP camera at 25-40′ away at night to capture the plate off a car moving 25-35mph?

Mike Kobb
Mike Kobb
3 years 9 months ago

Ah!

I missed it the first time I looked at the camera’s documentation online, because they don’t call it “Multi-view streaming” in the documentation. But here’s the relevant bit from page 19 of the user guide:

“A view area is a cropped part of the full view. Each view area is treated as a video source in Live View and has its own video stream and PTZ settings.
To enable view areas, go to Video & Audio > Camera Settings and select Enable View Areas.”

Mike Kobb
Mike Kobb
3 years 9 months ago

The brochure for the Axis 33 series says that this camera should support “multi-view streaming”, which I think means that it can be set up so that you can use it in a wide angle configuration, but stream several zoomed-in views (sort of like some of the hemispheric cameras can do). Did you experiment with this functionality at all? I wonder whether the camera can record the full image while having those zoomed views available.

kenneth Johansson
kenneth Johansson
3 years 9 months ago

Hi
I have a crane company in sweden (telescopic bom crane)and i am sertching for a cam to use at the top of the crane.
Motec has a system but it is to expensive. May be you can recomend something.
I was thinking aboute a wireless ip cam and use a lokal network wifi?. It is max 70 meter betwine
the cam and router and nothing in the way for the signal. The cam is not going to move, just
locking strait down, bullit or box cam .I want to se live pic on an ipod or android in the crane cabbin were also the rauter is monted.No sound, no recording . Do you think this will work.Is 70 meters to long?
Spec.. min 15 gg zoom from ipod not manuel on the cam,outdoor,maybe heat for ise and fog?,
12-24 volt max 2 amp .God pic both sunlight an low light. You can se a system on Motec.com
for better uderstand what i meen. I hop i can find a cam under 800 usd.
Thankfull for all ansers. (exquse my bad eng)
Kenneth

What-da
What-da
3 years 9 months ago

Great review. It would be good to see some video and pics of night scenes without IR illumination. Just to see how it copes with low light levels and you have the street lights across the road.

wolf
wolf
3 years 10 months ago

WOW WOW!!! nice review! thanks again.
If this camera runs at $1300 and sort of has an internal NVR, then how would you compere this to a mobotix night vision camera being that they also have built in recording feature. (besides the zoom part because we all know mobotix lacks the option to zoom in and out remotely).

Michael
Michael
3 years 10 months ago

Nice looking camera. It looks like with the focus setup on your driveway that it would be very difficult to make out license plate numbers as they drive by on the street. What would be the best option if you wanted to both ID people on your driveway and catch license plate numbers driving by on the street? It seems like both of those things would be equally helpful but I’m not sure how to do it. 2 cameras with each focused on the different areas or is there a camera that can do both somehow?

Lee
Lee
3 years 10 months ago

Very impressive, I will have to check to see what a ‘sample’ will run me, but retail on it is…….WOW! Thanks for posting.

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