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Hikvision’s Built-in NVR Like Capabilities

I’ve been asked what cameras can record without the need for an NVR or a PC running NVR software. In the past I’ve recommended Mobotix which has solid in-camera NVR capabilities but sometimes the price of these cameras and complexity have been a barrier to many.

Hikvision cameras also have this capability and is probably one of the best implementations I’ve seen once it’s setup, but there isn’t good documentation on how to do this, so I put together this tutorial.

Let me first show you how it works so you get an idea if it’s the right solution for you.

When video is recorded by the camera to a NAS, you can play the video by logging into the camera via your browser. I tested it with Internet Explorer 10 and Firefox 22.

You click on the Playback tab across the top and you’ll see a screen like this

Across the bottom are the play/pause button, stop button, and speed control buttons on the left and buttons to take snapshot and download recorded events on the right.

Double clicking on the video will bring it up in full screen mode. Double click or hit escape to get back. With e-PTZ enabled (the magnifying glass), when in full screen mode, you can highlight and area of the screen with your mouse and it magnifies the area, clicking on the screen returns to the full display.

The timeline below the buttons is where you find recorded video. You basically drag the timeline under the yellow line and click play. It plays from clip to clip until you hit stop or pause.  You can expand the timeline period to get finer control by clicking the plus/minus signs on the right.

This all works smoothly and as well as most NVR’s out there. You can select another date from the calendar and select a start time below that.

To download a video recording, you can click on the download button and it will present a list of all recordings and you can select them and click start and it will download the video from the NAS to your computer

So now that you know how it works, I’ll go into the nitty gritty. The first step is to make sure you have the latest firmware version. I had trouble getting this to work until I upgraded to V5 firmware for this camera.

The next step is setting up your NAS for NFS. To clarify, NAS means Network Attached Storage and means the disk is connected via your network. NFS is a file sharing protocol, Network File System. Most cheap NAS devices are setup for Windows/Mac only and use CIFS share or FTP protocols. This will not work with either, it has to support NFS. I first tried it with a WD MyBook Live which has NFS secretly installed on some models, but it did not work. I used Synology Diskstation and that worked. You can probably use FreeNFS software on Windows and for those with a MAC, you OSX has NFS built in, just have to set it up.

Log into the camera via a browser and click on Configuration, Advanced Configuration, Storage and click on the NAS tab. Then type in the IP address of the NAS and then the directory name of the NAS directory (this directory is created when you setup NFS).

When you click Save, it will ask you for a reboot, wait about a minute and the camera logs you back in automatically at the same point. Then click on the Storage Management tab.

If all went well with the last step, you’ll see your NAS drive with it’s capacity. Click the checkbox next to it and click the Format button. This is a misnomer as it does not really format your disk. If you have data on there, it will not erase it. All it does it builds some sort of metadata on the volume that doesn’t really take up much space.

As a warning, depending on the size of your drive, the speed of your NAS, this can take a while, maybe 30 minutes. It will provide it’s progress on the right in terms of percentage done and when it’s done, the Status should show normal and you should see Free space. I would reboot the camera because this is where my WD Mybook failed, it said Normal but changed to “uninitialized” after rebooting the camera. With the Synology it stayed Normal.

Now click on the Record Schedule tab

Here you have to click the Edit button and enter in your recording schedule for motion detection. If you do it correctly and you want to be able to always record, the schedule will be all green.  The easiest way is to put in 00:00 to 24:00 and click Select All, click Copy and OK.

Now the NAS portion has been setup. If you did not make it this far, it could be your camera firmware or NAS is not correct.

Under Configuration, Advanced Configuration, Events, select the Motion Detection tab and check the checkboxes circled in yellow and the click the button circled in yellow to set motion detect area and the schedule (same screen as above).

If you did everything correctly, it should be set to record on the next motion detection. So stand in front of the camera and “wave our hands in the air like you just don’t care” as the song goes and click on the Playback tab, scroll the timeline to the current time and see if there’s a recording. You can also log into the NAS and see if there are any recordings.

Kudos to Hikvision for putting all this functionality in an affordable camera. For Hikvision to make this perfect, they would need to support CIFS as that’s more common and is password protected where NFS is not. This would allow most people to buy a cheap off the shelf $100 NAS and start using it to record.

This makes sense if you have a small amount of cameras like 1 or 2 and buying an NVR is not practical. Once you have a more significant amount of cameras, logging on to each camera to view recordings may be tedious and may be time to get an NVR or NVR software.

Where To Buy Hikvision Cameras

www.WrightwoodSurveillance.com not carries these cameras for great prices and free shipping.

 

 


239 Responses to “Hikvision’s Built-in NVR Like Capabilities”


  1. 1 Toby
    July 11, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    Great – definitely going to try this as I just bought a 2032 from Alibaba.

    Have you ever had a play with the Hikvision NVR’s? They are about ~$800 for a 32ch version, which seems like pretty good value.

    • 2 networkcameracritic
      July 11, 2013 at 8:28 pm

      I have not tried their NVRs.

      • 3 Smitty
        August 27, 2014 at 7:41 pm

        Hi all new to posting here but have learned a great deal from this great blog. Thank you all especially the man known as Buellwinkle ;).

        I have a system consisting of two Hikvision DS-2CD2532F-IS Mini domes and two Swann/Hikvision 3mp Bullets (which I chose on your recommendation) running through a POE switch to a dedicated NVR PC running Sighthound Video. The image quality is AMAZING!

        I’m a computer geek with limited networking knowledge and previously zero ip cam knowledge so it’s been a journey of discovery, thanks for the support. Couldn’t have done it with out you guys.

        I recently had an incident which was captured by my cams. I posted capture of the incident to our neighborhood watch. The response was overwhelming. We have over 400 members in our neighborhood watch and I have received numerous requests to install cameras at their homes. I would be happy to do this but would like to avoid tearing up their walls. Hikvision has just released a budget WIFI NVR. The DS-7104NI-SL/W. Here is a link to the product page;

        http://www.hikvision.com/en/us/products.asp?cid=270521

        If you could find time to review this NVR I would be forever in your debt!

        Also I have found the “people finder” function in Sighthound Video to be very very effective at reducing false motion notifications (although Sighthound has many rough edges (Won’t live stream at full screen on Android app, won’t playback at over 1080p in firefox, will playback at high resolution in Chrome but won’t live stream) too bad, the people finder feature is amazing. You should do a review of Sighthound too! Have I thrown enough work at you yet!

        Thanks again for your great work.

        • 4 networkcameracritic
          August 27, 2014 at 9:11 pm

          Sighthound, formerly VitaminD is pretty cool software. As with any analytics, there’s a price to be paid in CPU use but they are working on that and getting better all the time. I wanted to do a review, just need them to provide the software to do the review as I tried the demo software, but it’s limited to low resolution. If you talk to them, tell them to let me know if they are willing as I am.

          Will take a look at that NVR. It’s available via a U.S. distributor, but said special order, which means they don’t have inventory and I would have to wait to get, but I’ll give it a shot. What may be in the same price ball park is the Intel NUC I recently did a review on. I bet for $250 including a 1TB hard drive, you can get the Celeron version and run 4 cameras using free software like Hikvision iVMS4200 or Milestone XProtect Go. I’ll have to try that too.

    • 5 Steve
      August 20, 2013 at 10:21 am

      Did you ever try this with the 2032? I just ordered 2 and I’m hoping this functionality works on them.

  2. July 12, 2013 at 10:00 am

    For the Events/Motion Detection/Linkage Method/ Upload to FTP, does that upload the motion-triggered jpeg snapshot?
    If so, does it have a specific number of frames pre-/post- event included in the upload?
    Will it continue to upload snapshots for the full duration of a motion event?
    thanks again for your thorough reviews.

    • 9 networkcameracritic
      July 12, 2013 at 10:19 am

      I have not tried their FTP.

      • 10 vin
        August 27, 2014 at 9:56 am

        I tried the FTP feature. It’s working great but is limited. It will take 1 pictures every 2 seconds, you can set it up to 1 sec, but it will still take 1 every 2 secs and it will start when the motion is detected, not before.

  3. 11 Russted
    July 13, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    How taxing is this on your computer, and what system are you running it on? I am very interested in their bullets and domes, but I am afraid my older i3 can’t handle BI. Any chance you are going to review the comparable Hik dome?

    Thanks,
    Russ

    • 12 networkcameracritic
      July 13, 2013 at 2:42 pm

      I run NFS on an HP Microstation N54L with a processor about half the speed of the first generation i3-540 and I barely makes the CPU gauge move, under 2% for sure.

      I have the Hikvision dome on loan from Hikvision, but there’s a problem with and I’m waiting for them to provide a fix.

  4. 13 Kevin
    July 18, 2013 at 1:26 pm

    Have you noticed the NVR timeline time does not match the video timestamp? IS it because of the DST settings that are applied? Seems like a bug.

  5. 15 Kevin
    July 18, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    Is there a known JPEG URL? For some reason, RTSP works through VLC but does not work in Live Cams Pro for the iPhone, iPad.

  6. 17 Steven Kamp
    July 21, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Great write up! I have 2 of these cameras and was wondering if you found a way for the timeline to display motion detection when you also have it set to record continuously. I can only get it to show either pink (motion detected) or blue (continuous recording) but not blue with pink overlayed to show the motion detection within the continuous write like Blue Iris would. If I can get this to work this would be the perfect solution. I have 2 cameras writing over NFS to my home server and CPU utilization is 1%! Much better than the 95% with Blue Iris.

    Steve

    • 18 networkcameracritic
      July 21, 2013 at 10:02 am

      I have not but I’ll pass the comment to the people at Hikvision that I’ve been working with if they have not already read this here.

    • 20 Dave
      September 5, 2013 at 9:14 am

      Steve, How did you set yours up to record 2 cameras to one NAS? I can’t seem to figure it out for the life of me

      • 21 networkcameracritic
        September 5, 2013 at 9:57 am

        I have not tried it but I would assume he setup two NFS shares, like two directories in NFS, each one defined as a separate share.

        • 22 Dave
          September 5, 2013 at 11:31 am

          I tried that. I think . Again my knowledge of BSD is limited. I setup a mount point /sidewalk on partition 1. Then I set up a second mount point /driveway. When I try to apply the change is returns this

          Wrong partition type or partition number.
          /dev/da0p2: Can’t get UFS ID.
          dumpfs: /dev/da0p2: could not find special device

          I guess I need to figure out how to make two partitions?

          Or if what you meant was 1 mount point /NVRStorage and directories /sidewalk and /driveway within that

          /mnt/NVRStorage/sidewalk
          /mnt/NVRStorage/driveway

          I can only get one camera at a time to see the mount

        • 23 Dave
          September 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm

          No dice. It will only see one at a time. Sounds like I need two separate partitions.

          I made 2 mount points, one mount point with two directories, Ive run through every combination I can think of. One camera will see the HDD and the other will but it will not let me access it

          • 24 Dave
            September 6, 2013 at 1:52 am

            Well it looks like the issue resolved itself. I have both cameras pointing to the same share volume. Maybe because of the size of the drive it took a long time to realize it was formatted by the other camera? I don’t know for sure. I don’t know if having both cameras to the same share is a good idea or not. I will run it for a few days and see how it goes. Right now it is working so I really don’t want to mess with it.

            Thanks for the help

      • 25 Steven Kamp
        September 5, 2013 at 11:28 am

        Yup, created 2 NFS shares called cam1 and cam2. On each camera I used /cam1 and /cam2 respectively as the NFS path. Both shares are on the same drive and the camera was able to “format” them. When it does a format, it lays down a directory structure so does not really format the drive but rather just initializes the file structure. I hope this helps.

        Steve

        • 26 Dave
          September 5, 2013 at 3:16 pm

          @Steven

          Sounds like its an issue with how I have nas4free setup then. I guess I will pull the drive and totally wipe it and try again. Weird that one share shows 1.8TB and the other shown 0. When I format the drive on the other camera, that one shows 1.8TB and the previous camera now shows zero.

          Forgive my ignorance but by creating 2 mount points, is that creating 2 partitions? Like 2 drive letters?

        • 27 Dave
          September 6, 2013 at 6:58 pm

          Just an update on the whole sharing/formatting issue. Turns out that it didn’t like both cameras to the same share. I called Hikvision and they confirmed they were having some issues with NAS boxes and were working on a firmware fix. However while troubleshooting we stumbled on a possible problem. The setup is a laptop running NAS4FREE with a 2TB external HDD. When I “formatted” the drive from the camera, it allocated all 1.8TB for storage, thus leaving no room for the other camera. I was having issues setting up a second partition using UFS file system, so I reformatted to ZFS and created to virtual partitions at .89TB and pointed each camera to a NFS share. Probably not the best or most efficient way to do it, but it works.

        • 28 Dave
          September 7, 2013 at 2:18 am

          I had the share thing figured out I thought, but in the end I could only get it to see one drive. I called Hikvision and the guy there said there were some issues with direct NAS recording, and they were working on it. But during the conversation we figured that it was the way the cameras were “formatting” the drives. It seems that it would allocate all 1.8TB for one camera, thus leaving no room for the other. I wasn’t able to figure out how to create a second partition in UFS so I reformatted to ZFS and was able to create two volumes, both at .89TB each. Now each camera has its own partition. Probably not the best or most efficient way to do it, but its working.

          Thanks again for the help

          • 29 Travis
            November 6, 2013 at 4:04 pm

            So I’ve been running 2 cameras writing video trigger by motion to a nas4free server. I have one share folder then inside I have a folder created for each camera. They are both recording to their respective folder perfectly. I can either browse the files and watch the video or log into the camera and watch it. I didn’t create a partition for each camera.

    • 30 Bryan
      August 10, 2014 at 10:17 am

      Any updates on this? I have just installed two Hikvision cameras (a 4332 and a 2432) and it would be nice to record continuously yet show motion detection events. I have yet to purchase a NVR.

      My old analog Q-See DVR also broke up the recording files based on motion detection. This made it really easy to view and/or download the clips including the motion detection events. Any idea if the Hikvisions can be setup to do this?

  7. 32 Newbie
    July 21, 2013 at 11:15 am

    Your link to Wrightwood above needs some attention.

  8. 34 Carlton
    July 24, 2013 at 5:45 am

    Do you know of any camera that does motion-based recording to an internal SD card as opposed to a NAS?

    • 35 networkcameracritic
      July 24, 2013 at 9:17 am

      Hikvision makes cameras with SD card slots, but I have not tested any. Many Axis cameras do and then you use Axis Camera Companion to view the recordings. Just about all Mobotix cameras do and you can view the recordings from the cameras. Some cameras like ACTi with SD card slots require you to export the recordings to your PC to play back. Some like Dahua require you to run their program (PSS) to play recordings back.

    • 36 Joao
      September 23, 2013 at 6:25 am

      My Foscam cameras do this, as well as uploading to FTP. But they don’t have fancy timeline capabilities, they just save the recordings as 30 seconds video files.

      • 37 networkcameracritic
        September 23, 2013 at 10:24 am

        Many cameras let you FTP, the issue is managing the disk. With FTP, it cannot return the amount of disk space available, so it typically just stops working when it’s full. Also, can Foscam playback directly from the camera via the browser interface?

  9. 38 mo
    July 26, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    Hi thanks for the write-up, I only wish this was done a few months ago when I was in the process of connecting the camera to my NAS, i’m sure it would have saved me a lot of time!

    I am hoping someone here can help me with one little issue though, which hasn’t been mentioned yet… How can I set the camera to record only the last X amount of days, or even record to X amount of space, then overwrite from the start, when using the ‘in built’ nvr/nas capabilities. There does not seem to be any option for this on the NAS settings page…

    I can do this with a vivotek camera (fd8134) which I have, but surprisingly not with the Hikvision (which so I have found to be far far superior in every other way to the similarly priced fd8134).

    Thanks

    • 39 mo
      July 26, 2013 at 6:27 pm

      *which so far I have found

    • 40 networkcameracritic
      July 26, 2013 at 10:09 pm

      I started on this project Months ago, it took that long to get it working and that’s with Hikvision working on it with me. I have not found a place where you can specify the amount of days to record or X amount of space. But send them an email request, the more people that request it, the more likely it will get done. As a workaround, you may be able to set quota limits or define the amount of space for an NFS mount point that limit how much it can write before it has to erase older recordings.

      • 41 mo
        July 27, 2013 at 5:37 pm

        Hi thanks for the reply.

        Yes indeed it required some fiddling around to get it working!

        I have sent off an email to supporteuro@hikvision.com, I just hope the company backs up what is a very good reasonably priced camera with decent support. Hopefully i’ll get some form of response soon.

        Thanks again

        Mo

      • 42 Mo
        September 8, 2013 at 12:02 pm

        Having discussed this issue with tech support it seems that there is no way (at least at the moment) to set recording quotas directly from the camera itself.

        One possibility that was mentioned, and it may work for others, is to create Lun disks (if your nas device supports this) which act like virtual drives and then set the size limit from there.

  10. 43 Notchy
    August 6, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    Hi networkcameracritic,

    I wanted to clarify that this is a good solution if you have 1 or 2 Hikvision cameras?

    So each camera I would have to log in seperately to see the video or motion detection clips.

    Do you know if IVMS 4200 works with only Hikvision camera’s ?

    I ordered my Hikvision cameras from China and waiting for delivery.

    • 44 networkcameracritic
      August 6, 2013 at 2:32 pm

      I have iVMS4200 installed but have not played with it. Each camera that records directly to NFS requires you to log in separately to view live or recorded video. Can be tedious if you want to see what’s going on around your property at one time or playback from several cameras in unison.

    • 45 Whelan
      April 6, 2014 at 3:39 am

      “Do you know if IVMS 4200 works with only Hikvision camera’s ?”

      I imagine your cameras have long since arrived and you already have your answer by now, but fooling around with IVMS-4200 and a mixture of Hikvision and foreign cameras is so far giving me the impression it does not work with other manufacturers cameras, regardless of ‘onvif’ standard compliance. This makes sense I guess, as otherwise they’d be providing an NVR package to the world free of Milestone-style license fees and potentially assisting folks who just bought a pile of cameras from the competition.

      I’m not done testing yet, but so far it’s looking like this is intentional.

  11. 46 notchy
    August 6, 2013 at 2:46 pm

    Thanks.. BI is a nice NVR solution but my I do not think it will run with my options.
    I have 2 IP cameras that are VGA and I ordered 3 (3MP) Hikvision mini bullets.

    I have the options of using currently

    - AMD Athlon 64 dual core 2.7GHZ with 2GB ram
    - AMD Phenom 8400 triple core 2.10 GHZ with 3GB RAM
    - AMD E350 processor 1.6 GHZ with 2GB ram

    What is your test machine specs when you tested ZoneAlarm and Blue Iris?

    Do you think these can handle 5 cams?

    • 47 networkcameracritic
      August 6, 2013 at 4:08 pm

      Memory is not an issue with BlueIris as it’s 32 bit app. Zoneminder can be installed either way. I have about 4 cameras on BlueIris on an i3-540 and run about 30-40% CPU using direct to disc recording. Zoneminder would be less efficient than BlueIris. Another choice is Milestone XProtect, free for 8 cameras for 5 days recordings, or $50/cam for their Essential version where you can have more cameras and more days of recording but uses a lot less CPU than BlueIris or Zoneminder and has good smartphone apps that are free. Don’t know how my i3 and your PC’s compare but there’s sites that compare CPU power.

  12. 48 Oliver
    August 9, 2013 at 10:19 am

    I am in the market for a low to mid range network camera mainly to do continuous recording where there are fast moving objects. My essential criteria:
    -outdoor (IP66/7)
    -good low light performance (IR illumination is not really necessary but may come in useful)
    -H264/Mpeg4
    -SD card (a full blown NVR is not required – raw files will do)
    -30fps 720p (at 1080p would be a bonus)
    -low power (<12w preferably)
    -secure connectors
    -can be easliy mounted on a pole

    The fewer moving parts the better so a fixed lens H=60 degrees would be adequate. Other than that wifi and/or a 4g module would be a bonus.

    A Hikivision would be great but I cannot find an appropraite model with SD recording. I really like Acti cameras for quality/value and they have a nice API (URL commands) but seems that one must pay alot to get a model with SD recording in which case I would fork out for a Mobotix M24Sec.
    At the moment I am considering Dahau/Q-See however I would be prepared to pay just a little more for crispier image quality.

    Also do you have anything on Lilin. I was Looking briefly at the LR7722x but I am unsure. I have also not examined Axis.

    I would really appreciate your opinion on this and thank you for this great site.

    • 49 networkcameracritic
      August 9, 2013 at 10:46 am

      Dahua IPC-HFW3200C or 3300C has SD card slots and their new firmware allows for playback from camera like Hikvision. The ACTi outdoor domes have SD card slots. We certainly use Mobotix with SD card slots for remote locations. Axis P33 domes have SD card slots. There are Hikvision cameras with SD card slots but have never seen them in person.

      As for pole mounts, ACTi, Axis, Mobotix should have pole mounts for many of their cameras. For Hikvision or Dahua, haven’t seen any but maybe generic pole mounts can be used.

  13. 50 Frankie
    August 27, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    Thank you for the helpful guide, just want to share something I did similar to NAS recording but using iVMS4200…I helped one client with the issue of 1 or 2 cameras per location, but multiple location, where it wasn’t budget friendly to use a NVR per location.

    The things we used:
    Hardware:
    Windows Server PC that is left on all the time (he remotes into this PC with his company’s VPN to see playback on iVMS4200)
    2 x 2 TB HD (installed into the PC)
    12 cameras, about 6 locations. (Also connected with company VPN)

    Software:
    iVMS4200 Client Software
    iVMS4200 Storage Server (also called PC-NVR if you check out HV’s download page)

    Basically all the cameras from 6 locations are recording to the 2 x 2 TB HD on the PC (thanks to the software), and the cameras can be grouped and set up and playback together with iVMS 4200.

    If you do not have a company VPN, you can even port forward the camera, add the external IP of the camera to the computer with iVMS4200 storage software running, and do remote storage through the internet to one central location. The settings are a bit tricky though (especially for motion recording), and PCNVR software seem to die once in a while and has to be restarted, so hoping they keep releasing a stable version of this in the future.

    The instruction on ivms 4200 Storage server (and stream media server) is really lacking in their user manual though.

    • 51 notchy
      August 28, 2013 at 3:01 am

      Hi Frankie,
      Just to clarify ivms4200 can be setup to view more then 1 camera for video playback? Could you please tell me the steps? I have 3 Hikvision 3MP mini bullets and would like to try.

      • 52 Frankie
        August 28, 2013 at 9:27 pm

        Hi Notchy,

        I would try this with a new HD connected to your motherboard, I really am not sure if partitioning your HD will work. In theory it should.

        -I will assume you have already imported all the cameras under Device Management under a single group-.

        (always Save after each setting, this is also assuming for Motion Record)
        1. Run storage server software, leave on.
        2. run client software.
        3. Control panel->Storage server
        4. Click ‘Add’, and under IP, put the IP of your computer. User is admin, pw is 12345, port I kept as 8000. The serial of the PCNVR should show up.
        5. Click Remote Configuration:
        -Go to HDD->format your new HD.
        -Click camera->add all three cameras from your group
        -Click Schedule->Record Schedule needs to be set to All Day Template, repeat for all your cameras.
        6. Back to Control Panel->Camera Setting
        -Go to Schedule
        -Local Recording should be checked automatically
        -Record Schedule should be on Alarm Template
        -Storage Server Recording should have your PCNVR’s Nickname on it.
        7. Go to Motion Detection
        – Should be enabled
        -Sensitivity should be 3-4 (up to you)
        -Arming Schedule here should be All-day Template

        -I had ‘Triggered Camera’ checked, but don’t know if it made a difference.

        Repeat for all your cameras, some settings you can do ‘Copy to’

        To do playback:
        Control panel->remote playback->select all the cameras you want to playback and click search then play, you will see the graph and stuff on the bottom.

        Issues I’m still trying to find solutions for:
        -Remote playback of the storage server using another computer in another location.
        -Seeing all the cameras at once on Phone.
        -Remote playback of the storage server on phone.

        Hope it helps and will work with your 3 cameras!

  14. 54 Tony F
    August 29, 2013 at 9:13 am

    Good morning,
    Well, I am happy to report that my system is up and running as it should (more or less) in part thanks to all the information I have been able to peruse here. I am still having one issue though. Let’s hope you’ve ran into it as well. Specs are:
    - PC running Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 Bit
    - 8 Hikvision DS-CD2032-I
    - Synology DS-213 (2 bays, 3TB each)
    - Blue Iris full product (licensed)

    My setup, as I said, works perfectly… as long as it is saving to a local drive. Now, I purchased this Synology DS with the sole purpose of storing my video surveillance files, so you can imagine the level of frustration I am experiencing. I have the HD space in my local drives, but my ideal setup is using this Synology because of all the nifty features (i.e. redundancy, hot-swapping, etc), but at the same time, I refuse to buying the license pack they want for surveillance. Will I be able to make this work for me as a dumb networked drive where I can simply drop my BVR files (or mp4, or WMV, whichever I pick)

    Your assistance will be much appreciated.
    Thanks

    • 55 networkcameracritic
      August 29, 2013 at 9:29 am

      BlueIris has a feature that archives recordings via FTP, so it should be no problem to record on the PC, then move the recordings to your NAS.

  15. 56 Genez
    August 31, 2013 at 9:59 am

    Could someone point me to the V5 firmware download? I’m running V4 and need to update.

    • 57 networkcameracritic
      August 31, 2013 at 10:34 am

      Some people have gotten it here – http://www.hikvisioneurope.com/portal/index.php?dir=

      • 58 Genez
        August 31, 2013 at 10:50 am

        Thanks,

        I have Swann hd-820′s and would like to do the same thing mentioned in this article. They are running V4.0.9 130419 firmware but I can’t find the correct version on the link provided. I was going to set up a linux based NVR using Zone Minder, but can’t get the NAS to format properly. Any suggestions? Thanks.

        • 59 networkcameracritic
          August 31, 2013 at 1:10 pm

          You can’t do the NFS think unless you have the latest firmware. The firmware is called raptor.

          • 60 Genez
            August 31, 2013 at 6:24 pm

            Ok, the firmware installed and I configured the NAS ip and path, however when I go to configure the HDD, it gets to around 50% and says “HDD Initialization failed”. Sorry for all the questions and thanks for your help.

          • 61 networkcameracritic
            August 31, 2013 at 8:55 pm

            It may be in-compatible NFS. I had the same issue when I used a WD NAS, but it worked with Synology.

          • 62 Steven Kamp
            September 1, 2013 at 4:56 am

            You may need to change the encoding on the NFS server. This happened to me as well when using my NFS on Windows 2012. The default NFS encoding was ANSI. When it was ANSI it would bomb out. I changed it to BIG5 and it worked perfect. I hope this helps.

            Steve

  16. 63 Tony F
    August 31, 2013 at 9:43 pm

    How did you make it work with synology? What steps am I missing? I even downloaded FreeNFS and ran it on the client PC, to no avail. I am both: very happy with BlueIris, and very disappointed with Synology. If I could make it work, I’d be golden.

    Thanks for the FTP idea though. I will keep trying and save that for last

    Regards

    • 64 Steven Kamp
      September 1, 2013 at 10:15 am

      Make sure your NFS server is using BIG5 encoding instead of ANSI. I think the hikvision cameras need BIG5 to work. It would not format the storage until I changed the encoding to BIG5. I used Windows 2012 built in NFS.

      Steve

  17. 65 Tony F
    September 5, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Like many others here I tried to have these cameras record straight to a NAS via NFS and did not succeed. I wasn’t too bummed out about it though, because I purchased 8 of these cameras, and quite frankly monitoring 8 cameras one by one is not the most efficient scenario, so I did not insist too much on that.
    I like to have granular control over all devices in my network, so buying an NVR didn’t make much sense, plus we all know how hard it is to find a decent NVR solution that’s scalable (I plan on buying 2 more cameras, for indoors) and provides the features you want. Instead, I focused my efforts on an NVR software, and having this software save to my Synology NAS. BlueIris was the winner after much research. Here is what I did in that regard:

    1-Create your share in Synology, making sure all NFS privileges and permissions are set right.

    2-In the Windows client, navigate to Control Panel / Programs and Features / Turn Windows Features on or off. (this was available in Windows 7 Ultimate, not sure if all flavors of Windows 7 carry this tool)

    3-Select Services for Network File System (NFS), install

    Even though Microsoft will insist that you should never use Hard mounts (they claim is to avoid data corruption) you will have lots of trouble trying to write to a share that’s a soft mount. It will disconnect whenever it feels like it, thus preventing you from saving to that drive. So, when you install Services for Network File System in step 3, make sure you navigate to Start / All Programs / Administrative Tools / Services for Network File System / click it, right click Client for NFS, and select Use Hard Mount, before you even type step 4.

    4-In a Command prompt, type this:
    C:\Users\User>mount –o option1 option2 \\192.168.x.x\volume1\sharename Q:
    (where Q is your selected Drive letter). Also, see your options (option 1 and option 2 above) here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc754350.aspx

    5-You should get a message that reads:
    Q: is now successfully connected to \\192.168.x.x\volume1\sharename
    The command completed successfully.

    6-Now, still in command prompt type: mount

    7-Press Enter. This will give you a summary of that mount you just did
    You’re now ready to start having BlueIris save to your Synology drive.

    8-Open BI, specify your Clips/Images/Stored saving directory and you should see your alert files being created.

    Note: This particular solution uses ANSI encoding instead of big5. You use big5 when saving straight from the camera to the NAS. In this case, BI is doing the recording functions.

    Thanks

  18. 66 Travis Rice
    September 7, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    This has been working great for me. I turned an old PC into a NAS with NAS4FREE. My issue now is how do I get the camera to only keep so many days? I only have 100GB of storage to use and it gets filled after a few days.
    Thanks!

  19. 70 notchy
    September 8, 2013 at 7:48 am

    Hi Travis Rice,
    How many cameras do you have hooked up to your laptop?
    If it is more then 1 camera, are you able to view the multiple cameras in the hikvision software?

    • 71 Travis
      September 8, 2013 at 4:31 pm

      Hey Notchy.
      I have 2, but only have 1 setup at the moment. Still need to run the cable for the other.
      I connected the second camera and I’m able to see both cameras using the Hikvision IVMS4200 software.
      I don’t use the software though. Since I only have camera’s and am only using 1 right now I just log into the camera directly.

      As mentioned in my prior post I took an old PC and am running NAS4Free on it so I wouldn’t have to go out and buy a nas. This has been working great. The camera records directly to the NAS and I can log into the camera as detailed in the article above to view the recordings.

      This actually came in very handy yesterday when the police needed me to identify a kid that was scoping out a package on my neighbors porch.

      • 72 Dave
        September 8, 2013 at 5:35 pm

        @Travis,

        please keep us posted when you get the second camera hooked up and recording. I am having a heck of a problem getting them both to record to the same share. I’m running NAS4FREE also. Today both cameras seem to be dropping HDD to record to. IDK if it’s cause I’m using ZFS and not UFS or what.

        Thanks

        Dave

        • 73 Travis
          September 15, 2013 at 9:51 am

          Hey Dave. So I hooked up my second camera to see if I would have the same issue as you.
          I couldn’t get it to record. I took the “Security” directory on my NAS and then created 2 folders inside there. One for each camera. Now neither one would record.

          Messed with permissions. Nothing. Deleted folders and started over. Nothing. I then remembered under Services > NSF I had to setup the share. Did that and now the second would record, but not the first.

          I played around and then by changing the ‘Authorized Network drop down to a different number on each they are now both recording. One is set to 23 and the other to 24. I have no idea what this setting does.

          At this point both cameras are recording to the HDD on my Nas4Free setup.

          Travis

  20. 74 Tony F
    September 9, 2013 at 9:33 am

    I think version 5.0.2 of the Raptor platform (which is the correct firmware for the DS-CD2032-I) addresses a number of NAS related issues.

    • 75 Dave
      September 11, 2013 at 11:45 am

      I put the 5.0.2 firmware on yesterday. If they did do something to the NAS issues, it didn’t help. I haven’t been able to keep the HDD online for more then about a half to a day without having it fail. The only soultion I seem to have is to format the drive, but then all the data is gone. IDK if it’s my settings or what. So far very unhappy. Cameras are great as far as image quality. I’ll give it a few more days then maybe try a dedicated NAS box. Right now I’m running NAS4FREE on an old laptop

      • 76 networkcameracritic
        September 11, 2013 at 12:09 pm

        Try Linux or DSM in a VM as they have native NFS support, me be more reliable than a Windows version.

        • 77 Dave
          September 11, 2013 at 12:14 pm

          It’s a bootable CD that goes right into NAS4FREE. no windows involved at all. Playing around with the ZFS pools now to see it maybe I boogered something up

          • 78 networkcameracritic
            September 11, 2013 at 12:52 pm

            I would go with a more native Linux solution, like Ubuntu Live (CD boot edition) and using NFS from that. I’ve never tried it from a bootable CD, but have used NFS on Linux for many years.

  21. 79 Patrick Dixon
    September 12, 2013 at 11:10 am

    Thanks for this – it’s been a great help.

    I have 2 DS-2CD2112 Cameras and a HP N54L running Ubuntu Server headless (ie no local KVM). The Ubuntu server can be configured/maintained by webadmin, but I tend to use a terminal (command line) over ssh from a Windows machine.

    I installed NFS on the N54L and used a dedicated 1TB disk with a separate subdirectory for each camera, updated the camera firmware to V5.0.2 130805 and it all works well. I’m using iVMS-4200 on the Windows machine – which seems fine, although I haven’t figured it all out yet. You can playback multiple cameras at the same time in a multi-screen grid but I haven’t yet figured out how to synchronise them.

  22. September 14, 2013 at 12:28 am

    Thanks For This.
    Its Really Helpful Me Before I Planning To Buy This One.
    Once Again Really Thanks.

    - Perception InfoTech

  23. 81 Warren
    September 16, 2013 at 7:53 am

    I got this working with a Raspberry Pi as my NAS with a 16GB USB stick for storage(Formatted NTFS, had issues with it mounting on reboot as ext4).

    I have 2 DS-CD2032-I running 1080P/Medium Quality/15 FPS. I found the if I bumped these up I would start having some lag issues from the Pi. Both have the Raptor 5.0.2 Firmware.

    I made a folder for each camera to save the videos in. When I only had one folder, I would get truncated videos for the same time period. One would start recording then the other camera would start, thus cutting off what the first was trying to record. So you need separate folders.
    I have also been using the Android app which works really well for playback and live feed.

    I find this works really well for me. The Cameras probably consume more power then the Raspberry Pi, but it’s better then having an old laptop or computer running all the time.

  24. 82 Jon Robb
    September 17, 2013 at 2:29 am

    I have been trying to get my Hikvision DS-2CD2032-I to record to my QNAP TS-119 NAS with limited success.

    I followed the helpful networkcameracrtic guide:
    http://www.networkcameracritic.com/?p=1729#more-1729

    NFS is activated on the QNAP and the latest 5.0.2 firmware is installed on the camera. The NAS video storage works fine initially and I can review videos.

    However after rebooting the camera the NAS storage space returns to ‘uninitailized’.

    Any suggestions? Maybe I should just bite the bullet and buy a Hikvision NVR…

    • 83 james bond
      September 19, 2013 at 12:19 am

      I’m having the same issue, but with NFS enabled on my MAC. It just becomes uninitialized after a reboot. No luck with FreeNFS on the PC either. Was about the purchase a NAS, but it sounds like it may be the camera?

      Anyone out there got NFS working?

      • 84 romx
        September 27, 2013 at 11:23 am

        Same issue with Synology DS212j.
        Any network shortage (if camera trying to write at that moment, I suppose) causes switching to ‘uninitialized’ state. After ‘formatting’ everything is OK (but all recordings will be lost), till next stop.
        As I understand, camera fall into panic if can’t access (with any reason) to nfs export (share), and it looks like a bug, beacuse nfs itself CAN solve problems with disconnecting (by their stateless nature). So it’s only Hik’s firmware bug.

        Unfortunately this great feature so pretty unstable for using it for my customers. I’m sad.

  25. 86 David
    September 19, 2013 at 12:30 am

    Just so that everyone knows, I’ve got my recordings going back to a win 2008r2 box as a proof of concept and it just recorded from 2 cameras until the space ran out. Does anyone know of any nfs share quota monitoring tools? That would help immensley with this problem.

  26. 87 Steve
    September 25, 2013 at 6:05 pm

    I got the NFS recording feature to work on a very small embedded solution – a linksys NSLU-2 reflashed with SlugOS. It is fanless and low power. I followed directions here:
    http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/SlugOS/InstallandTurnupABasicSlugOSSystem
    plus addes the nfs packages and a few others (e.g. ntp) to keep time.

    I did have to chmod 777 the nfs share, which was my last wrinkle before getting it working.
    Remember to check the “exports” config file for authorizing the subnet as (rw).
    I found this tutorial useful:
    http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/nfs.server

    Now – it is only one camera feeding direct to the HD, but it works, and cost me only hardware that I had kicking around anyway…

  27. 88 Carl
    November 6, 2013 at 11:53 am

    I recently bought two Hikvision cameras and THOUGHT I could simply have them read and write to a HDD connected to my network. So I bought an adapter that turns a USB HDD into a network drive. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am starting to realize that I am going to need a dedicated PC running which I was hoping to avoid. My cameras cannot communicate with the HDD on my network. I can access the network drive from a Windows PC, no problem. After reading this thread, it looks like the file structure needs to be NFS and the adapter I bought does not have that type of file structure. My question is, am I stuck either buying a true NAS device, or using a dedicated PC to run something like FreeNAS to manage the HDD? This part was a rude awakening. I thought I had all the hardware I needed. By the way, the adapter I bought is a Cirago Network USB Storage Link+. Thanks for any insight.

    • 89 networkcameracritic
      November 6, 2013 at 12:23 pm

      Inexpensive NAS devices typically are made for Windows use only and use CIFS, a Window file sharing protocol. Cameras typically have some form of embedded Linux and Linux does not share the enthusiasm for CIFS that Bill Gates had. So when buying a NAS, make sure in the fine print it says will work with Linux and supports NFS. When I did my testing, I used a NAS, not a PC.

      Hikvision product management realizes that CIFS is more popular so I’m hoping they will support this in one of their firmware upgrades.

      • 90 Carl
        November 6, 2013 at 12:31 pm

        Thank you for confirming. Would you be able to recommend a NAS enclosure that would do a decent job of storing up to four cams (storing motion only)? There is a pretty inexpensive Synology one for about $150. I just want to make sure I don’t make another mistake in another purchase. I simply want the most affordable solution that will do the job. Thanks again!

        • 91 networkcameracritic
          November 6, 2013 at 1:12 pm

          Synology makes NAS devices in various price ranges, mostly differentiated by the processor performance and number of drive bays. The operating system, DSM is the same as what I tested with. They don’t come with NFS pre-installed but they have sort of an app store where click on the NFS app and it downloads and installs, similar to what you may be used to on a smartphone.

          • 92 Carl
            November 6, 2013 at 1:18 pm

            Thanks for the tip. I will order the Synology DS211J. It has some good reviews. Even though I do have enough PC pieces laying around to build a dedicated server, I would rather have something with a smaller footprint along with an OS that is already built in. Thank you!

  28. 93 Kendall
    November 11, 2013 at 2:41 am

    Great info. When you get time can you post an update? I found a way to run NFS on windows and save to the camera. It’s a free version of software as long as you register. It’s called hanewin NFS and can be found here.

    http://www.hanewin.net/nfs-e.htm

    I have two cameras saving to my windows machine as a backup method. I then use windows backup to save the folders that the cameras are saving their data to, on a NAS. This is much simpler and easier for folks who don’t understand NFS vs CIFS etc.

    It works great and is super simple.

  29. 94 Carl
    November 13, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Well, I received my Synology DS212j NAS today and didn’t have much trouble getting my Hikvision cameras to record to it when they see motion. I did have to create two separate directories (on the same volume) for them to write to.

    I have not been able to get the FTP function to work though. The camera software doesn’t have any fine settings for FTP (that I see). I wonder if anyone has had success getting it to FTP snapshots to a server, based on an alarm trigger?

    • 95 Bob
      November 20, 2013 at 2:52 pm

      Are you able to record 3MP with the DS212j or just 1080?

    • 97 Dex
      November 27, 2013 at 2:06 am

      Hello,

      Sorry for my poor english and don’t know if you have still the issue but I’ve been able to FTP to my synology.
      The thing is that when you connect to Synology FTP you are not redirected to a default directory. Just do a try, use filezilla to connect to your synology and you will see that you have a list of directories where you can go but as you log in you are not in a writeable directoy.
      The Hikvision FTP client doesn’t allow you to perform a “cd” (change directory) to the directory that you want. I’ve not tried to play with parent/child thing on the camera, there may be as well a solution here (but if you have severals cameras you may have to create several shares).

      What I’ve done is (on the 107+ DSM 3.1, not checked in 4.x but it should be the same):
      - Create a specific user/pwd for cameras
      - Activate the home directory on the synology (in the user panel).
      This create on the Nas a root folders named Homes and as many sub folders that you have users (log in admin to see the structure). When you log as user you will see a new folder home which in fact point to /homes/yourusername
      - Then on the synology FTP setup screen, security parameters, check the checkbox to change the root directory of the camera user. This will allow the Hikvision when it connect to teh FTP to fall in a writable directory.
      - Now you can go the FTP setup of the camera and choose a sub directory to write in (parent/child,…).

      On my setup, if I want to see the pictures, I just have to go to /homes/camera-user-name/camera-name.
      If you have severals camera and use the same FTP user for all, you should en up with something like this on the NAS :
      /homes/camera-user-name/camera-name1
      /homes/camera-user-name/camera-name2

      I’ve as well successfully solved the NFS share issue (if you reboot the camera, you have to reformat the share) following comments made here (on a hikvision camera review).
      Many thanks to the owner of this site for that :).

      Regards,

      David

      • 98 Carl
        November 27, 2013 at 1:02 pm

        David,

        I was referring to the FTP function of the Hikvision camera, where you can FTP images from the camera to a server, automatically. My server requires a secure FTP connection and the camera software just gives you a basic FTP function, so the FTP fails. I have not been able to find a work around, but I would still like to.

        When I save a video capture to my local hard drive (Win 7 PC) from the camera’s Playback function, it will not play in any of my video software. That is another issue I need to resolve. It’s probably because the mp4 video file is saved in a slightly different format than what Windows based software can read. Not sure.

        Thanks,

        Carl

        • 99 networkcameracritic
          November 27, 2013 at 5:05 pm

          Don’t now of any camera that has SFTP, but that would be a good feature to have. Is the purpose to FTP an image on a timed interval to a website? If that’s the case, there’s alternatives.

          As for capturing video to your PC, I believe that only works if you do a manual snapshot or record, and yes, puts video in mp4 format, not native to Windows. Download VLC Player, free, open source, works great, you can set Windows to use that program automatically for that file type. VLC is one of those Swiss Army knife type tools, can stream video, can convert one video type to another, can play just about anything.

          • 100 Carl
            November 27, 2013 at 5:42 pm

            The purpose of doing the FTP is to capture a few images whenever the cameras see motion. Then, if a criminal notices the cameras and wants to burn the house down to destroy documented evidence (for example) there would be still images stored on a remote server. SFTP is becoming more of a standard, so it is unfortunate that it is not an option in the camera’s software.

            Thanks for the tip on VLC player. I will definitely check it out.

  30. 101 moha
    November 13, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    Are you able to set quotas limits for how much each camera can record individually?

    Thanks

  31. November 18, 2013 at 12:16 pm

    Hi

    I found solution for all questions of NAS problem :) i think.
    No matter on what NAS box there is almost always linux inside.
    My NFS linux config look like this (works well):


    /home/pub/cam1 *(rw,async,no_wdelay,no_root_squash,crossmnt,insecure,anonuid=0,anongid=0)

    many options, but i think “rw,no_root_squash” is required.
    Second important think is filesystem of exported directory/device.
    vfat work well, ext3 doesn’t work.
    I cant confirm info about BIG5 encoding. My mount output:

    /dev/sdb1 on /home/pub/cam1 type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)

    Nothing about BIG5.
    Device i have used to test DS-2CD2012-I fw. ver. V4.0.9 130106

    Regards
    Mateusz Sieradzki

  32. November 18, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    I cant find firmware on hikvision site, any linki please ??

    Regards
    Mateusz Sieradzki

  33. 109 Nelson
    November 23, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    I purchased the swann HD820 cameras and a poe. I was able to get it to work several ways…via the browser, blue iris and HIKvision’s client software. I haven’t gotten a NAS drive yet. Depending on the setup I have some questions.

    Using the browser doesn’t have the ability to record automatically.

    Using Blue Iris I need to leave the PC on (Not preferred). This way doesn’t require NFS NAS but I still need to have the PC on to record.

    Does anyone know a way of recording without the PC being on all the time? I might as well get a standalone system from Swann or similar company. It appealed to me because there was no port forwarding and that the camera, poe and NAS were the only parts that needed to be powered all them time. I guess the PC is the brain like the standalone NVR and needs to be on.

    • 110 networkcameracritic
      November 23, 2013 at 5:59 pm

      If you record to NAS, clearly the NAS has to be powered on, but not any PC. I used a Synology NAS to do this. Also, one thing to consider with a NAS is you can have too many cameras, you’ll overload what it can do and lose recordings. For me, I found the sweet spot at about 4 3MP cameras of a different brand, after that it started losing recordings so we have two NAS for one camera cluster.

      • 111 RedSox12
        December 29, 2013 at 5:47 pm

        First of all, thanks for your incredible reviews and your incredibly useful posts!

        I have 16 3MP Hik 2032 bullets (10fps) and am using BI to monitor on an i7 with no issues.

        My question is whether a synology 8-bay (e.g., DS1813+) will be able to handle this throughput — the DS1813+ has 4 LAN ports so my question is whether you think this will be ok, or “overload” it as you mentioned in your post. Would appreciate your thoughts….

        • 112 networkcameracritic
          December 30, 2013 at 9:04 am

          I don’t know, do you mean as a NAS or using Synology Surveillance Station? Either way, I would not use RAID 5 as it’s not ideal for writes, so I would go JBOD and assign cameras to specific drives.

  34. 113 Kendall
    November 24, 2013 at 1:25 am

    I am using a N4100 Pro NAS and it works just fine. I have two of the hikivsion cameras hooked up. The cameras support NFS3, but not NFS4.

    You can also use a program on your windows PC and use it as a NAS storage device. Please refer to my posts a few back.

  35. 114 Vinny
    November 27, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Anyone found a way to have the Hikvision DS-2CD2032 save files to a Buffalo Linkstation NAS. Are there any workarounds that are possible like formatting the NAS to NFS or maybe a FW update in the works to support CIFS/SMB NAS storage? Hikvision would sell a ton of units with a FW update to support this. I love the high resolution and clear images provided by this camera but it is not useful to me if it cannot utilize my existing NAS infrastructure.

    • 115 networkcameracritic
      November 27, 2013 at 4:55 pm

      Unfortunately, most consumer grade NAS devices rely on a Windows mount (CIFS protocol) and don’t have NFS protocol in their software. Some can be hacked by using telnet to connect to a Linux prompt and installing NFS, but that would require some familiarity with Linux. I did this on my WD MyBook Live NAS, but didn’t work properly with the camera even though I can mount to it from my Mac. I’m hoping with a future release of firmware they will support CIFS. I heard rumors of a 5.1 release in early 2014.

  36. 116 Carl
    December 1, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    I had posted that I could not play the downloaded mp4 video files in my Windows 7 players, from the Hikvision cameras. The video did play in the VLC media player but I could not convert the video file to be able to play them in my Windows players. Then, I stumbled upon a player that can be downloaded from the Hikvision site and it has a built in function to convert the mp4 file to avi. I did that and now the avi file will play in my windows media player. Now I can do whatever I want with the video files. Success!

    Here is a link to the Hikvision player. http://www.hikvision.com/en/download_more.asp?id=1250

  37. 118 Carl
    December 2, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    I have three cameras now. They are model DS-2CD2032-I.

  38. 119 KIa
    December 14, 2013 at 9:33 am

    Hi,thanks for your good reviews of 2032ip camera of hik,I have 7608 SE/P NVR of hikvision and two 2032 bullet camera,I want to add planet HM 127Box IP camera to my NVR but it doesnot match ,but planet nvr match to 2032,how I can match my NVR to my 127ipcamera? Thanks,with best regards kia

  39. 121 DirkDaring
    January 3, 2014 at 6:35 pm

    With the latest firmware it can now connect to NAS via CIFS. I have gotten the camera to successfully connect and record to a Western Digital 2TB MyCloud drive.

    • 122 networkcameracritic
      January 3, 2014 at 7:56 pm

      That is awesome. I tried it with my WD My Book Live edition and nothing. Did you have to do anything special?

      • 123 DirkDaring
        January 3, 2014 at 8:02 pm

        I made a login/pw for the camera in the WD interface, put in the info in the camera settings and it connected right up to the Public share and formatted it in about 20 minutes. It recorded and played back fine. I’m formatting a 250GB hard drive to plug into the MyCloud USB to see if it can mount to it as well. Right now it’s using the full 2TB, and there is no way I can see to make a quota in the WD software. It’s running Debian, but I’m not good enough with linux to change any of the settings (you can SSH into the box).

        • 124 Ipcam User
          January 15, 2014 at 12:09 pm

          Great to know, I wonder if there is any other person out there thats has similar luck with other brands of Nas drives.

          I wish networkcameracritic could do some tests with some other brands of NAS drives using 5.1 firmware and post a video on youtube.

          That would be awesome

          • 125 networkcameracritic
            January 15, 2014 at 12:18 pm

            I could but they know it’s a problem and by the time I setup a couple of NAS devices and test and write a review, they would have fixed it.

        • 126 DirkDaring
          January 15, 2014 at 12:31 pm

          Just to add. I could not get the camera to record a hard drive connected to the MyCloud drive’s USB port. It connects and begins the format and eventually fails around 80-something percent. It wasn’t a big deal so I didn’t try and troubleshoot it much. The drive was split in 2 partitions which may have been a problem (but unlikely).

          • 127 Ipcam User
            January 16, 2014 at 5:29 am

            Thanks for the update, i plan on waiting a month or so to see if there are any new firware updates to address the issues with NAS. If not i am am going to buy the NAs drive you have and also either the lenovo ix2 or the tn-200 and see if i have any luck.

            I just think for persons who only need 1 or 2 camers investing in a standalone NVR is prob a waste of money for most.

          • 128 Ipcam User
            January 19, 2014 at 3:29 pm

            just an update, i went out and bought the WD mycloud drive and followed what you suggested and it works perfect!

            I am able to record and playback videos from the webpage.

            I ordered the lenovo ix2 which i should have in the next couple weeks. I will test and let you all know.

            If anyone ties the trendnet tn-200 or any other NAS drive, please let us know.

            Thanks

        • 129 Briank1
          March 8, 2014 at 9:40 pm

          Can you explain how you did this with the Login/Pw for the camera in the WD interface? I cant seem to see my WD Cloud Drive to be seen at all in Hikvision web interface.

          • 130 DirkDaring
            March 9, 2014 at 10:01 am

            Create a share called Camera1 (or whatever you want).

            Server Address: 192.168.1.xxx (your clouds ip)
            File Path: \Camera1
            Then put in your username / password. I went to go look at mine and I see I used my normal login/pw for the cloud device. I thought I made one for the camera but I guess I didn’t.

            If you have a second camera, you would make a new share called Camera2 or whatever. I just have the one camera so far, will be getting another sooner or later.

            Hope that helps!

  40. 131 Strat
    January 6, 2014 at 10:02 am

    I picked up a 2-pack of Swann SWNHD-820CAM’s from Costco for $349.99 recently. They have firmware V5.0.0 130813 and a manufacture date of October 2013. I’ve only set up one of the cameras, so far.

    Picture quality is good. Night vision is good. Build quality is good. Value is excellent.

    I run a dedicated PC as an NVR and live streaming server but, for now, have another Windows machine running NFS to record from the 820CAM. First, thank you for the write up and all of these comments – it made configuring Windows Server 2008 R2 and the Camera a task, not an odyssey. After the network share was full, new recordings overwrote the old.

    I have a few questions:
    1. Has anyone used the Hikvision iVMS-4200 software with the Swann cameras? Are they recognized?
    2. Is updating the firmware to Hikvision V5.1.0 build 131202 as simple as using the web interface?
    3. Can I revert to the Swann firmware easily?
    4. Where can I get the Swann firmware? I’ve looked at the Swann site but, well, it stinks.
    5. What VBR/CBR are people using? The default was 4096 kb/s, 5120 works ok, and 8192 causes stuttering problems in recorded video for me.

    Thanks again for the reviews.

    • 132 networkcameracritic
      January 6, 2014 at 10:19 am

      You’ll have to talk to Swann support. Putting in unauthorized firmware may brick the camera and void your warranty.

    • 133 Strat
      January 6, 2014 at 3:27 pm

      Yes, you’re right. I just like fixing things that aren’t broken :). The changelog from the Hikvision Europe site for the latest firmware is enticing.

      I re-skimmed your review of the SWNHD-820CAM and noticed that you used iVMS from Hikvision to fiddle with the camera. That’s enough of an incentive. I’ve downloaded it and will try getting things running as time permits.

  41. 134 matter
    January 13, 2014 at 6:25 am

    Hi,

    I have the hikvision DS-2CD2012-I and I’m trying to make it work with DLINK NAS-320, it has Network shares (NFS) setup but I cannot make the disk visible as online. I tried all kind of options but no luck.

    Was anyone able to make it to work?

    Thanks!

  42. 136 matter
    January 13, 2014 at 7:25 am

    Hi,

    was anyone able to make it work with DLINK DNS-320 ?

    Thanks!

  43. 137 Ipcam user
    January 15, 2014 at 9:55 am

    Hi There,

    I just bought the Hikvision DS-2CD2032-I and have v5.1 loaded on it.

    I attached a usb drive to my router(trendnet 812dru).The camera online page was able recognize and format the drive with no problem. I tried take snapshots for a little while which work fine meaning it stores the images to the drive.

    The issue is recording videos, I set the recording schedule as continuous and even tried motion detection but it shows space on the drive being used up but no recorded files can be found in playback nor going into the drive.

    My question is did you have to do anything special with your synolgy drive and which model did you get?

    Thanks

    • 138 networkcameracritic
      January 15, 2014 at 10:00 am

      Didn’t have to do anything other than install NFS. But that does not work with 5.1 for me, but worked with 5.0. Report any problems to Hikvision support, that’s how these things get fixed.

      • 139 Ipcam user
        January 15, 2014 at 11:49 am

        Actually spoke to them today and they said they(R&D) are aware of the issue and to call back in a month.

        So you have tried it on 5.1 and no luck with NFS right, which model NAS drive do you have and did you try any other NAs

        I was actually looking into the Lenovo ix2 because support told me the R&D team were looking to add support for Synology and Iomega Nas drives.

        • 140 networkcameracritic
          January 15, 2014 at 12:17 pm

          I tried it with my Synology and no luck. Also tried it with a WD Mybook Live and no luck. I’m sure if they get good feedback, they’ll have a 5.1.1 release soon that will fix this. They have been pretty responsive and interested in the feedback.

          • 141 Werner
            January 28, 2014 at 10:30 am

            I’ve got a tip in the forum, in order that teh camra records with NFS or CIFS (5.1) there can nothing be on the NAS. SO I did reformat my Netgear Duo, one volume, one single share on the top and it does record. I’ve tried before with directories on teh share and it did not work.

  44. 142 Kendall
    January 15, 2014 at 11:23 am

    I am using 5.1 on my swan 820 hikivsion cameras and NFS no longer works but CIFS does…. So seems they fix one thing and break another. It works fine copying clips to a laptop I have setup.

  45. 143 Kendall
    January 16, 2014 at 10:38 am

    So what is weird, the camera software gave me the error that it failed to initialize. But if I look on my 2TB NAS, it is still creating files…

    I have 20 datadir folders for my 2TB NAS, I only have 5 datadir folders for my 500GB NAS.

    After it completes the 20 datadir folders on my 2TB NAS, it still wont say normal… So I really think its something to do with the disk size and their software.

    I have 3 seperate NAS devices. Two are 2TB NAS devices, and one is 500GB. Only the 500GB NAS seems to work. Pretty lame considering I bought a high end NAS with Raid5 capability only to find out it will work with 500Gb or less drives.

    I also am using Gigabit switches with Cat6, so I know its not a networking issue.

    I am pretty sure its a time out issue with the software and the NAS. If It doesn’t complete in a specific time frame then it just shows as uninitialized. I think Hikivision needs to make that timeout longer for bigger drives.

    *Edit*

    I just emailed Hikvision and hope they pass this info along to the right team.
    ————————————————————————————————-

    I wanted to say thank you for your cameras. They are the best quality cameras for the price and I would recommend them to everyone I know if your team could resolve the storage issue with your next firmware release.

    When using the storage feature it looks like your datadir folders are created based off 100GB increments. IE: If I have a 500GB drive, your camera knows to create 5 Datadir folders on the specified NFS device.

    I have 3 NAS devices all utilizing NFS on a Gigabit network with all devices using Gigabit network cards.

    Two utilize 2TB drives and one utilizes 500GB drives.

    The only NAS I can successfully get your cameras to work with is the 500GB NAS device. This seems to be due to a timeout limit set in the camera software.

    Basically, the 2TB NAS device is using NFS. I can see where your camera creates the required 20 datadir folders based on my NAS size. It then tries to copy files to the NAS device. It gets to DataDir10 and then your camera software reports under the Progress section, “unable to initialize disk”.

    I login to my NAS and the funny thing is your camera is still creating the files on my NAS device. It eventually creates all the required files but when I go back into the camera software it will never say “Normal” for the status.

    I am a Computer Engineer by trade and work with enterprise class devices and have done extensive testing with your cameras and multiple NAS devices. It seems to be a timeout issue with the software not creating the files in time for your camera software to do its health check.

    I would be willing to help assist your team with testing. I have 3 NAS devices and I have swapped the 500GB drives into each NAS one by one and they all work fine if the drives are only 500GB. If I try a known good NAS device and swap the 500GB drives out with 2TB drives the camera system will not complete the process.

    Sorry for the lengthy email. I know your company is busy, but this would be a great feature to start supporting bigger drives as most people are using 2TB+ drives today.

    I have shared this information with other hikvision camera owners over at this forum.

    http://www.cctvforum.com

    It seems I am not the only one experiencing this issue. It seems to be fairly common with any model hikvision camera and the storage feature.

    Please feel free to contact me.

    I am using multiple Hikvision SWNHD-820CAM cameras that you re-brand for Costco.

    Current Firmware is 5.1

  46. 144 Mario
    January 16, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    Does the Hikvision IP cameras “HFIPC-2342F-IW” and “HFIPC-2352F-IWS” support continually recording to the SD card or to a NFS? I am interested in these models for my home. I used a Thecus N4200eco NAS for storage. Thanks

  47. 146 Mario
    January 16, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    This is the correct model “DS-2CD2432F-I (W)”, link on Youtube http://youtu.be/TH2tLzwslCc

    Thanks,

  48. 149 Mario
    January 16, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    I look forward to reading your review.

  49. 150 Poppapete
    January 26, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    I have had the 2CD2032-i for a week and have used Blue Iris and the web software. If I am correct with the supplied software you cannot record to the local computer when triggered by motion. It has to record to a NAS. Can I create a NAS on my desktop?

    • 151 networkcameracritic
      January 27, 2014 at 11:19 am

      Yes, many people have used nas4free or freenas to do this on older firmware. On 5.1, you should be able to setup a Windows share on your PC and have it record to that as SMB/CIFS mount.

      • 152 DirkDaring
        January 27, 2014 at 12:04 pm

        I tried the Windows share and couldn’t get it to work. The camera would not show the share at all. I would be interested on hearing back if you get it working.

  50. 155 Vinny
    January 29, 2014 at 6:51 am

    This works now with v5.1 software using a Bufallo Linkstation. The trick is you need to delete all files from the NAS before you go through the procedure for “formatting” the NAS. Also use the “share” folder directly off the root. I can record continuously or just on motion to the NAS. After setting this up it is easy to then allow other cameras to store to the same NAS (for example Vivotek or Trendnet). I would like to record continuously but also get an alert on the timeline when motion occurs but so far I don’t see how this can be done. Is it possible to record contnuously but also have an indicator show where motion activations have occurred? I do this with Blue Iris.

  51. 157 Adrian
    January 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    It is possible to record a day from 9-16:00 and from 16:01-8:59 schedule motion detection recording?

  52. 159 Ipcam User
    January 31, 2014 at 11:36 am

    Anyone have any tricks on hiding outdoor network wires?

    • 160 networkcameracritic
      January 31, 2014 at 12:33 pm

      The biggest trick is wireless. But seriously, do you mean areas where you can’t run it in the walls? We use emt conduit, thin wall metal, get a conduit bender if needed, paint it to match if you want.

      • 161 Ipcam User
        January 31, 2014 at 3:15 pm

        HA, I’ll look into those, what about the type of Ethernet wires, do i need some special outdoor Ethernet cables?

        • 162 networkcameracritic
          January 31, 2014 at 4:33 pm

          Regardless of if the cables in conduit or not, I always use foil shielded burial grade Cat5e or Cat6. I’ve seen installed go bad after 2-3 from contractors using indoor rated cat5 in conduit.

  53. January 31, 2014 at 12:42 pm

    I used schedule 40 PVC and painted it to match the house. The sun never hits the side of the house where I ran the PVC so it should last a long time. If it’s in direct sun, there is a special type you can get so it will hold up.

    And as mentioned, there is also metal conduit that will work.

  54. 165 John
    March 8, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    I purhased a Synology DS214 for my Hikvision DS-2CD2032-I camera.
    I updated the firmware in the camera. I set up a share volume. But I cannot get the Hickvision configuration for the Synology NAS to work. After setting up the info in the NAS tab, when I go to the Storage Management tab the HDD is shown as “Offline” and cannot be selected for formatting.
    Any ideas about this?
    Thanks.
    John

    • 166 networkcameracritic
      March 8, 2014 at 9:01 pm

      There’s a bug in the latest firmware, 5.1 that breaks this, so only work with 5.0 of the firmware. Someone posted a hack here to make it work and people tried it and it works. There’s new Hikvision firmware, 5.1.2 on the cusp of being released, hoping that fixes the issue.

      • 167 John
        March 10, 2014 at 5:33 pm

        I finally got Hikvision configuration to recognize my Synology DS214 as an online NAS. I had failed to give the shared folder proper permissions. I “formatted” it and everything seems to be working properly. Now I have a couple of questions that reveal my lack of knowledge about NAS in general.

        1). The two 2 GB HDs in my Synology DS214 are set up as Hybride RAID SHR giving me a total capacity of about 1829 GB. I don’t want to use all of this capacity for surveillance video recording. Is there a way to limit the size to which that shared folder can grow?

        2). How do you delete old surveillance video footage from the Synology unit to keep it from taking up all the available space?

        I know these questions are beyond the scope of the subject matter in this post. But I would appreciate any help you might give me.
        Thanks.
        John

        • 168 networkcameracritic
          March 10, 2014 at 5:42 pm

          When it reaches the % limit you set on the camera, it should delete old files to make room for new. I don’t know of anyway to share that file system. From what people say that got it to work with multiple cameras is they created separate partitions.

  55. 169 Carl
    March 10, 2014 at 5:55 pm

    I would sure like to know where I can set the % limit on the camera, to delete old files. Last time, once the NAS filled up, I went and manually deleted the folders on the NAS and reformatted each camera. What a pain. I have not figured out how to have the camera automatically delete files.

    Thanks,

    Carl

  56. 171 Carl
    March 10, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    Thank you. That’s why I could not see it. Is there any reason at all, not to upgrade to the 5.1 firmware? If not, I will go right ahead and do it!

    Thanks,

    Carl

    • 172 networkcameracritic
      March 10, 2014 at 6:31 pm

      Yes there’s a very good reason, most people have issues getting it NFS to mount with 5.1, but if it did, it would be awesome, LOL. There’s a patch somewhere here that someone posted.

  57. 173 Carl
    March 10, 2014 at 6:48 pm

    Well, I could not wait and ended up upgrading one of the cams to 5.1. Everything is still working as it was, but there doesn’t seem to be the new options, which is odd.

    It now states that the firmware version is: V5.1.0 build 131202
    And the encoding version is: V5.0 build 131128

    I don’t get it.

    Carl

  58. 175 Carl
    March 11, 2014 at 9:12 am

    The camera works fine with the 5.1 firmware, right from the start. It’s the additional options that are not showing up. I thought the patch fixed the disk allocation problem. But what about the additional options that are supposed to appear for 5.1? I wonder why they are not showing. The interface looks identical to the 5.0 interface.

    Carl

  59. 177 Carl
    March 11, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Thank you thank you thank you. I don’t know why I didn’t think of that. Bingo!!!

  60. 178 Carl
    March 11, 2014 at 10:52 am

    Well, once the new interface appeared, I was not able to view or record the video, so I went back to the old firmware. The patch instructions weren’t detailed enough for someone with limited server experience. I will wait until they get the bugs out of it.

    Still though, the percentages for still images and video need to both add to 100%, and the disk space can’t be modified. The only way I can think of managing disk space is to trick the camera into deleting video by setting the video percent low and the still image percent high, as I don’t save many still images. In theory, it seems it would force the video to delete sooner because it thinks it needs all that space for the stills. I am trying to manage disk space with 5 cameras. I have different directories on my NAS, but not different partitions. Thus, each camera thinks it has the remaining disk space all to itself.

    I know, camera don’t think… :-)

  61. 179 Zayn
    April 12, 2014 at 5:51 am

    Hi All,
    I have recently got the synology DS213J and 2x DS-2CD2032 6mm. I can’t seem to get the camera’s to see the NFS share?

    I created one volume and 2 share’s , enabled NFS. Added the IP address and mount location in storage on camera yet still disk is shown as 0 ?

    Any ideas please i am lost..

    Thank you

    • 180 networkcameracritic
      April 12, 2014 at 9:29 am

      They broke this in the 5.1 version of the firmware. There’s a patch of the code if you are savvy enough to do it. I wrote a thread about it HERE. My article was written based on the 5.0 version which did work.

      • 181 zayn
        April 12, 2014 at 9:53 am

        Hi, The camera’s are still both on 5.02. I have not upgraded them. I can’t understand why they can’t see the synology NFS shares

        • 182 networkcameracritic
          April 12, 2014 at 10:00 am

          You can only have one share per disk partition per camera, otherwise it won’t work.

          • 183 frankopan
            June 13, 2014 at 4:43 am

            I have setup 4 cams with one NAS, one partition, 4 shares, working now 10 days without problem.
            Create one share (NFS) for each camera and define it in Storage/NAS aka file path. In storage management you will see HDD as uninit., but then you need to format it (it is not really formating). And finally apply pattch to davinci, as described earlier. Each camera stores recording to its share.

          • 184 networkcameracritic
            June 13, 2014 at 9:25 am

            That is awesome.

  62. 185 zayn
    April 12, 2014 at 10:03 am

    thanks, i have as follows in storage on camera1

    IP address /volume1/CAM1/C1

    even with one camera i still see HD listed as 0.00 after save and reboot. It is not being recognized

    • 186 networkcameracritic
      April 12, 2014 at 11:00 am

      If there’s anything else on volume1, it won’t work, it’s weird that way. So delete everything on volume1 except for the directory you are using.

  63. 187 gh
    June 4, 2014 at 9:44 am

    Hi,

    I’m thinking about buying 3 or 4 Hikvision cameras and a switch with PoE, dedicated for the cameras. I already have a Synology 212+ Nas and a home security system. I would like to arm the cameras when the the home security system is armed. That is, when we are at home and the security system is disarmed, the cameras should not take any pictures. Using the camera configuration where one configure time schedule for recording does not work very well in our case. So, I was thinking about controlling the power for the switch via the home security system. When we arm the security system the power is on for the switch (and the cameras via PoE). And when we disarm the power is cut to the switch. Recording should be done to the NAS either via built in NVR capabilities or via Surveillance system. Do anyone see any problems with this solution? What happens when you cut the power to the cameras and then apply it again?

    Thanks

  64. 188 dj242
    June 7, 2014 at 10:02 pm

    For those trying to get CIFS to work with the latest firmware, I was experiencing the issue where the Format operation did not work. I finally figured out that it does not seem to work with NTFS partitions. It works for me when I used a newly formatted FAT32 partition. I just split an existing partition on an old computer into multiple smaller FAT32 partitions, and I’m pointing each camera to a separate empty partition – working so far.

  65. 190 Edvards
    July 9, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Hi,

    Please help, im using PCNVR 4200 software, and i want to access it remotely via web.

    I login to it via web, chrome 35, explorer 11 or newest Mozilla, whatever..

    So the problem is, when i press to playback section, i see recordings from past days, but when i want to playback them i receive a error “The page at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx says: Playback failed”

    But the weird thing is that it was working 1 h ago, i just changed a password for pcnvr and then it started to show this message.

    Please help, this could save a lot of pc pain. :)

    Thank

  66. 191 wakuteka
    July 10, 2014 at 5:01 am

    Hi, I am using one for test with a Zyxel NSA310. The big trouble is when the NAS unit is going to “sleep” (turn off hdd after x minutes). The NAS has WoL capability, but this cam cannot see it properly (status: uninitialized). Same thing it’s happening after the camera’s reboot.
    I think I will return it.

    Firmware Version V5.0.2 130805
    Encoding Version V4.0 build 130411

  67. 192 wakuteka
    July 11, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Hi.
    It’s working now.
    I downloaded the last firmware version from
    their website and I updated the camera.

    Firmware Version: V5.1.2 build 140116
    Encoding Version: V5.0 build 140110

    http://www.hikvisioneurope.com/portal/index.php?dir=Product%20Firmware/Cameras/DS-2CD2xx2/

    After first reboot, it seemed that nothing
    changed (about the NFS issue), but I rebooted
    it again and a new version of WebComponents
    downloaded (used only Chrome).
    Then, new resolutions appeared and choices
    (at Live View).
    The NFS issue didn’t solved for me (at NSA310),
    after “formatting”, the status remained “uninitialized”.
    Yeap, a big step down !
    Ok, the good news: I am able to choose between
    NFS and CIFS/SAMBA, so I stared to dig into it.

    I used the USB stick with SAMBA share from one of my
    routers (NFS didn’t work onto it) and I formated it.
    Next thing: even the share was public (no need user/pass),
    I was forced by this camera’s new firmware to enter it
    (so I entered the root user&pass from the router).
    It worked. The camera created the files structure
    (now I don’t see in that partition the old folders/files,
    e.g. tftp/ftp folders, but doesn’t matter).
    I setup the motion detection and I started to capture.

    When you use NFS, settings are (example):
    Server address: 192.168.1.20
    File path: /i-data/309077/nfs/camera

    For CIFS/SAMBA (example):
    Server address: 192.168.1.1
    File path: /disc0_3
    [must fill the user & pass fields]

    There were no network congestions at all
    (with one camera only), nor dropped frames.

    I used a small application to see the bandwidth
    on the router’s interface(s), so the results are:

    For all: Bitrare = constant, Frame Rate = 25 (at 3.1Mpix=20)

    1. capture 0.9Mpix, peak = 592 KBytes/s
    2. capture 2.1Mpix, peak = 664 KBytes/s
    3. capture 3.1Mpix, peak = 683 KBytes/s

    When I downloaded the videos from the router’s stick
    to the pc’s hdd (from “Download FilePlayback”, with Chrome),
    the speed was 1115 KBytes/s.
    A little bit low, but notice that the stick has
    three partitions, (/swap /opt /disc0_3).
    The router has only 32MB Ram, so more than 4MB from
    the swap were used in addition.
    Smbd used 23% from the router’s CPU (266Mhz).

    Now, if I reboot the camera, the router, or both,
    the status is “Normal”, so the camera can write onto
    the router’s stick when this is available.

    The only issue what I see now is:
    if I want to erase the old captures from that disc
    (using camera’s software, from browser),
    where can I find such function ?
    Btw: I don’t want to erase these files manually.

  68. 193 birte
    July 12, 2014 at 2:45 am

    I have a hikvision DS-2CD2532F-IWS and is using a SD Card.
    When I download recordings from the SD Card it tells me that it is downloaded but I cannot see anything in the folder it is supposed to download to. I am downloading to my laptop running win8.1. – any idea what to be done?

  69. 195 wakuteka
    July 13, 2014 at 12:09 am

    Hi, one more issue:
    I’m trying to set up SMTP connection security STARTTLS
    (port 587, gmail), but can’t send e-mail with attached
    snapshots.
    If I’m using SSL/TLS (port 465), it’s working.
    Need another firmware upgrade ?
    Thanks.

  70. 196 birte
    July 13, 2014 at 12:09 am

    Correct – it Works in Firefox (I was using IE) – thanks!

  71. 197 DavidI
    July 29, 2014 at 2:39 pm

    If I don’t have a NAS, what capabilities will I get with a basic camera? Can I view recordings and download/export them? I’m willing to run NFS on my PC for downloading footage on demand if I need to do that.

    • 198 networkcameracritic
      July 29, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      You can get one of their cameras with an SD card slot and record/play to it. The other choices are to just run their free Hikvision iVMS4200 PCNVR to record on a PC or use the free Milestone XProtect Go which is much better.

      • 199 DavidI
        July 29, 2014 at 3:39 pm

        I didn’t want to leave my PC on all the time. The SD card sounds like it would give me an introductory solution for 3-4 cameras and I could add a NVR later if I wanted right?

  72. 201 Mike
    July 30, 2014 at 7:47 pm

    I have been pulling my hair out trying to get my NAS to work with my Hikvision cameras. Hoping you could help me? I was able to get the right format (I think) for the file path for the nas (an LG NAS 1tb). The camera acknowledges the capacity of the NAS in the storage management tab but there is no free space and i can’t edit any of the quota setting. The webpage also says the status of the NAS is uninitialized. Hoping you can point me in the right direction.

    • 202 networkcameracritic
      July 31, 2014 at 6:51 am

      When I tested this, I was using 5.0 firmware. Since then to get it to work, you have to apply a hack to the camera. I post this information HERE.

  73. 203 iamdix
    July 31, 2014 at 10:49 am

    Hikvision iVMS4200 PCNVR has to be installed on a dedicated hdd?(like purple wd for example)or into C drive running Windows 8.1?

    I am going to buy a drive just for recording eventually.

    • 204 networkcameracritic
      July 31, 2014 at 10:53 am

      I have never installed that version, but yes, it requires a dedicated drive or partition. You can also try Milestone XProtect Go, it’s free for 8 cameras and 5 days recording, but much better than iVMS4200. There’s a new iVMS5200 that is client/server, better architecture, but have not been able to get it yet.

      • 205 iamdix
        July 31, 2014 at 1:51 pm

        I thought I could install iVMS4200 PCNVR into local drive where window s is on and then record on a separete HD …or not?

        • 206 networkcameracritic
          July 31, 2014 at 2:09 pm

          Yes, you can install PCNVR on your normal Windows disk as with most software you install. It requires an empty partition or disk to record to as it erases everything on that disk.

          • August 1, 2014 at 5:28 am

            Thanks mate, that helped!
            I’ ll install the software and when the DS-2CD2432F-IW 3MP arrive I am going to record to the sd-card first and I am willing to buy the WD purple series when I get more ip-cam to work.

  74. 208 nunolf
    August 5, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    *,

    I see a lot of hikvisioner’s wanting to use the NVR like capabilities. May I guess that for the ones with Synology NAS, the Surveillance Station (SS) software does not offer what you need?

    I struggled to connect SS to an Hikvision DS-2CD2432F-IW 4mm, and though for a moment I thought I did solved the problem () after a bit the connection was lost again.

    Thus I have to turn to the other solution, well presented in this article.

    Thank you *.
    N.

  75. August 13, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    I am planning to install 4 cameras ( 2 indoor + 2 out door) , would you please advise me about all items in details that need to be ordered ( SW & Hw).
    Note : I want to access all of them thru mobile ( remotely)

    thanks

    • 210 networkcameracritic
      August 13, 2014 at 10:47 pm

      Search through my site and look at Dahua or Hikvision cameras as they offer the best value. The easiest thing to do is get the Dahua or Hikvision NVR which has 4 PoE ports. You just plug the cameras in and it automatically configures them, pretty easy. You’ll need to buy a hard drive for it and also connect it to a monitor or PC with HDMI port. Accessing it through your mobile phone is no problem as each vendor provides Android or IOS mobile apps for free.

  76. 211 Vin
    August 27, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    Hi,

    I’m trying to set up my camera (DS-2CD2732F-I(S) V5.1.2 build 140116) so as it will record video on my nfs server. I set up my nfs server with the following options /video * (rw,insecure,no_root_squash) and can connect to it either with my linux machine or my mac. When I configure the the camera and reboot it, it seems it does not recognize it as when I go in the storage tab, it is not there… I did a tcpdump on the nfs server, I see that the camera tries to connect to it (rpcbind request on port 111) but then it does not continue through and retries every ~30 secs. On my other machines, I can connect and create directories and files without any problem. Any ideas what could be the problem?

    Thank you,

    Vin

  77. 212 Tony F
    August 27, 2014 at 7:54 pm

    There is a new firmware out 5.20, Build 140721. Find it here: http://www.hikvision.com/en/us/download_more.asp?id=1354

    • 213 networkcameracritic
      August 27, 2014 at 8:47 pm

      A word of caution, 5.2 has less functionality than previous versions, for example, they removed the onvif/snapshot, face detection, line traversal and ftp. What’s worse is they made is so once you go to 5.2, you can not install older firmware. They also included some anti-hacking measures so the fix some people used to fix the writing to NFS or CIFS mount can no longer be applied as it bricks the cameras. Honestly, the best version is 5.1, it has better white balance for better color accuracy, you can apply the patch for the NFS issues and it’s a stable release. It’s what we use on our commercial installs. If you get camera with 5.2, you can install an earlier firmware using the tftp method documented on the Hikvision website.

  78. 214 Johnny
    September 3, 2014 at 6:17 am

    I currently have 2 x 2032 and 2 x 2132 (V5.1.6 build 140412) that I would like to record to a single HDD using a HP Microserver with FreeNAS. Before I leap into this, can you please clarify what would be the best approach? Would you recommend creating individual partitions for each camera on the HDD, then create individual NFS shares and then link these to the camera?

  79. 220 DJW
    September 24, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Hello all

    I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to use these damn things. I have a pair of the Swann SWNHD-820CAM cameras from Costco. Felt like throwing them out a couple times. I guess I should have read the entire manual from front to back. :-)

    I did learn a lot from the reviews and all the comments on this site. So thanks to everyone here for all the help.

    Here are some somewhat random thoughts and comments.

    Cameras are running 5.1.2 build 140504. I asked Swann for newer or older firmware and they denied having anything else.

    The hikvision iVMS-4200 software on the mac works great with the cameras. The iPad and iPhone equivalent apps also work. My 3rd generation iPad worked with iOS 7 but after I upgraded to iOS8 it doesn’t load anymore. My wife’s first gen iPad works fine, although she hasn’t updated to iOS 8 yet. My iPhone 5s with iOS8 works great with the same app. The iOS app is called iVMS-4500. You can also get a plugin that works in Safari and Chrome from hikvision.

    My DNS-323 worked as an NFS server for awhile, until it didn’t. I am having some hard drive issues with that device though. I have now am using a Debian server running NFS with DEDICATED partitions for each camera and so far so good. Until I created the dedicated partitions I couldn’t get the “format” to work at all.

    After a week or so monkeying around with the cameras testing stuff they started to create ethernet framing errors (FCS errors). I am using a 12 port Juniper POE switch (I am a network guy at work.) This really pissed me off because I am supposed to know what I am doing. I was installing permanent cabling when these errors started to show up and I assumed it was my terminations or I ran the cables to close to power or a kink in the cable or something I should know not to do. I couldn’t find anything. The errors were also killing performance and making the cameras hard to use. Then I reset everything on one camera to default (except the ip addressing) and the errors went away. A quicker way is to export the config and reset the settings then import that file back in. If you have network issues or suspect network issues, DO THIS. All my network errors disappeared as soon as I did this.

    I have it emailing motion detection alerts. Check out the advanced settings. You can change sensitivity between day and night and setup multiple areas for sensors.

    Winter is coming and it should go below -30C at some point I will try to let everyone know how that goes. The cameras feel warm when they are running but you have know idea about -30 or lower until you have lived it. :-)

    I can do some testing of various frame rates and quality levels to see how much bandwidth is generated. The default settings generate a consistent 3.0-3.2 Mbps bandwidth to the NAS. 1080p@30fps.

    Hmmm, thats all that I can think of at the moment. I might buy a few more cameras. I like them now.

    Thanks

    • 221 networkcameracritic
      September 24, 2014 at 10:28 pm

      iVMS4500 does not yet work with IOS 8 on iPads and Hikvision is aware. -30 is pretty cold but that’s -22F and had at least 2 people in the upper mid-west in the U.S. report no problems at that temperature last winter. Swan as with other OEM’s is going to be far back behind the native Hikvision cameras, just a downside to OEM versions. You are not missing much as 5.1.6 was pulled for some problems and 5.2.0 has less features than 5.1.6. Good to hear you got an NFS server working. As for PoE switches, I’ve run through a few including a Cisco 8 port gige switch that was flaky. I’m replaced it with a 24 port Netgear gigabit desktop switch that has 12 PoE ports and that’s been holding up and is quieter than others and runs off 120VAC (no power brick or wall wort).

      • 222 DJW
        September 24, 2014 at 10:56 pm

        Excellent news regarding the iPad app. I have been watching for an update.

        It seems the OEMs should be avoided, if possible. Wish I knew that sooner but you live and learn.

        I graph all my network traffic with observium which uses snap to collect the data. I hope the consumer grade PoE switches support snmp but that could be rare.

        I went looking for the older firmware (5.0.x) based on the reports here that said it was more stable on NFS. After I changed the partitions it has been stable so no need to downgrade now or upgrade anytime looking forward.

        Any exciting new features expected?

        Thanks from Alberta

        • 223 networkcameracritic
          September 25, 2014 at 8:15 am

          The only excitement was around 5.1.6 which adds motion detect features like face detection and line traversal detection. I see more analytics capabilities like this being added in more brands of cameras over time.

  80. 224 DJW
    October 4, 2014 at 9:09 am

    The IOS app has been updated and is now working on iPads with IOS8. :-)

  81. 226 Charles
    October 5, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    I’ve gone through so many specs trying to find a decent 8 channel NVR capable of motion detected recording (for Hivision cameras) … there’s always a give and take, right? … Spotted that the Hikvision 8 channels are limited/rated to 40 Mbps thorough, with Dahua’s at 160 Mbps. From your experience with various brands out there, which NVR would you say has the best value (capable of motion detected recording for Hikvision) out there, without going to a NAS box? Sometimes it’s not even a matter of price, like buying a proper hand tool, you just want to make sure it’ll serve you and not fail when the times comes to perform. Thank you, as always.

    • 227 networkcameracritic
      October 6, 2014 at 8:04 am

      Dahua NVR’s work with Hikvision cameras, including event driven recording.

      • 228 Charles
        October 6, 2014 at 11:48 pm

        In trying to trace this limitation, it’s not that camera ‘x’ has instructions to send [region] based motion to NVRs ‘a’ & ‘b’ but not NVR ‘c’ … I can’t make much sense past that an NVR simply decodes what data it receives and then displays it … am I incorrect? So what limits the majority of consumer based NVRs out there or even ones peaking to a grand from being able to support motion detection from some cameras but not all?

        It seems that the market for a solid, all-round-functional NVR really don’t emerge until you necessarily reach the high-channel ‘designed for airports and shopping malls’ tier. I don’t know .. my search for something thorough came up questionable. What would you point at as a solid, performance NVR or series to consider?

        • 229 networkcameracritic
          October 7, 2014 at 7:36 am

          Milestone makes a very good 8 channel NVR, but list price is $2,999, street price is pretty close to that, if not higher. Don’t know what you are trying to do. Do you want a camera to record to 2 NVR’s?

          • 230 Charles
            October 7, 2014 at 10:46 am

            Record only based on motion footage, running at 3-5MP, 25-30 FPS, bitrate of 6144-8192; not be held back by a mere 40 Mbps on one end, nor compatibility issues on another end, have fluid playback capability.

          • 231 networkcameracritic
            October 7, 2014 at 2:22 pm

            That’s sort of the limit with Hikvision on their 7600 series. The 7700 series doubles that to 80Mbps, but is a 16 channel NVR and costs more.

          • 232 Charles
            October 7, 2014 at 2:38 pm

            Yeah, the 7700 were the only ones I considered, because at that price you might as well ensure something, especially if and in a LAN environment. But the 7700 doesn’t make sense because it keeps the numbers relative per port. I think that was overlooked by them in the design. The Dahua 52xx and 72xx series can record motion detected footage as stated on their website. These NVRs at least run 3x-4x the thoroughput. I’m looking at another two that run up the 380 Mbps for the same price range. As far as I understand it boils down to the software on the NVR and it’s compatibility with Onvif 2.2 plus. The search continues.

          • 233 networkcameracritic
            October 7, 2014 at 2:49 pm

            The Dahua NVR’s do work with Hikvision cameras via ONVIF and do motion detect or continuous recording.

  82. 234 snice
    October 7, 2014 at 1:53 am

    Hi,

    I have the DS-2CD2032, and I would like to know if it is possible to record both on SD card and NAS? Also, I’m using the face detection in my current firmware, can someone confirm that this feature was removed from the new 5.2 firmware ?

    Thanks

    • 235 networkcameracritic
      October 7, 2014 at 7:33 am

      That camera does not have an SD card slot. Look for Hikvision cameras with an F in the model number, like ds-2cd2532f-i. Yes, face detection has been removed in 5.2.

  83. 238 Cory
    October 16, 2014 at 10:35 am

    Hi,

    I have 2 hikvision 2032 cameras that are conneected to a poe switch(trendnet) and is recording to a intel i3 nuc with linux.

    I use it to do motion detection recording at 1080p @20 fps.

    Issue i have is that during the recording the video freezes for some times 3 or 4 seconds. Sometime drops frames meaning i will see something and then the next frame its gone.

    I have tried so many dfferent settings with dropping down the frame rate,matching the frame rate to the i-interval rate.

    Same problem.

    It happens on 2 cameras, i changed network cables.

    Not sure whats going on.

    any suggestions would be great

    • 239 networkcameracritic
      October 16, 2014 at 1:15 pm

      Check the CPU utilization during times when it’s detecting motion and writing to disk. You are likely using Zoneminder which is CPU intensive. If you are hitting the wall CPU wise, it will drop frames (freeze video). You can try running Hikvision iVMS4200 PCNVR for Windows which is way more CPU efficient and free. I run Milestone XProtect on Windows which has a free version with limitations called GO or a pay version without the limitations that is also very efficient. For example, I run 10-12 cameras (depending on what I’m reviewing) at a time on my Intel NUC and all my recordings are smooth at 3MP at 20fps.


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