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Dahua IPC-HFW2100 1.3MP Mini Bullet Review

Here’s an outdoor rated mini bullet that fits smaller budget yet does a very good job for less money than it’s rivals. In comparison to the Dahua mini dome I reviewed that costs the same price, it has 1080P resolution (or 2MP) and this camera forgoes resolution down to 1.3MP for more features. Most importantly is that it’s a true day/night camera with an automatic IR cut filter and it has a very bright IR illuminators making is usable in dark situations.

Main Features

  • 1/3” 1.3Megapixel progressive scan Aptina CMOS
  • H.264 & MJPEG dual-stream encoding
  • Max 15fps @ 1.3M (1280×960) or 30fps @ 720P (1280×720)
  • 3.6mm fixed lens (6mm, 8mm optional)
  • Day/Night IR Cut Filter
  • IR LED working distance 20m
  • IP66 Rated Outdoor Bullet
  • Powered by PoE
  • Smartphone apps available

Overall, this is an impressive camera with very good image quality, good low light performance, well-organized menus and very small. The IR illuminators are very bright and wide, better actually than its big brother, the IPC-HFW3200C that I reviewed recently.

This is what the web interface looks like when you first log in. There’s options to take a snapshot, manually record, chose a stream and more.

Across the top are tabs for Live (live viewing), Set (configure the camera), Alarm (setup alarms) and Logout. When you click on the Set tab, it takes you this configuration screen.

Motion detection areas are cleverly set by clicking boxes to cover or expose the image. The exposed areas are where you don’t want motion detection and can be any shape that you can create using the box grid.

Configuring the resolution and streams is done on this screen where you can see the choices available.

This camera does not have an SD card slot like the other Dahua cameras I previously reviewed. You can have video events sent to a FTP server.

Now onto the images, how well does this camera perform. I mounted the camera at two places, one at the front of my garage, under the eave,and in my backyard because they represent different lighting situations. This camera had the 3.6mm lens which is fairly wide and covered most of front of my home. Surprisingly, when the camera was set to 1.3MP, objects were about the same size as with the 1080P mini dome using the wider 2.8mm lens, just did not cover as wide an area. If you don’t need to cover as wide an area, this resolution works pretty well.

One downside I noticed to choosing 1.3MP on this camera is the web interface displays the image in a wide-screen format instead of the 4:3 ratio of 1.3MP. I’m hoping this gets fixed in future firmware releases. When viewing images or recordings using their NVR or NVR software like BlueIris or when viewing recorded video, the image aspect ratio is correct. I do want to add that I tested this camera with BlueIris and it worked quite well and the recordings were smooth.

As with my other reviews, click on the images below to see the full size image, straight from the camera.

A slight disappointment with this camera is that white balance is not as accurate as the 1080P cameras from Dahua in all situations. There are hue adjustment to make it closer to what it should be. Not all scenes experience this problem. I expect that this may be correct in future firmware updates.

During the day, in my backyard, the color accuracy was much better.

At night the IR illuminators do a great job of lighting up the area with nice wide even lighting.

This image is taken in darkness with no other lights on. The fence on the far end with the two potted palms is about 50′ away. One disadvantage of the powerful illuminators is that people who are close to the camera are overexposed a bit.

To show you how small the camera is I put it next to the Dahua IPC-HFW3200C that I reffer to as its big brother.

I uploaded day and night videos to YouTube. To see them at the full 720P resolution, you must click on the gear icon and select 720P resolution and then click on the icon with 4 corners to see the video full screen.

The street price for this camera is about $199 and is a good deal for a camera with these features.

The pluses for this camera are;

  • Price
  • 720P at 30fps (or 1.3MP at 15fps)
  • Very bright IR illuminators
  • Day/Night IR Cut Filter
  • Smartphone apps – everyone wants to access their cameras from smartphones these days

The shortcoming of the camera are;

  • You must rely on your reseller for support
  • White balance issues in some cases
  • Displays wide screen format on the web interface even when you chose a different format

Click here to go to the company web page for the camera

 

 

 

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ask
1 year 4 months ago

I have read so many posts regarding the blogger lovers
however this article is really a good paragraph, keep it up.

Nick
1 year 11 months ago

I noticed that this camera has two additional accounts:one for admin and the other as a user, 888888 and 666666. I could not delete them, but maybe am missing something.

I used the app from robert chou and it listed the Dahua and ilc hfw family so it was able to fire it right up.

I would want to delete those additional accounts, especially the admin, since it seems to be a back door exploit if it “fell into the wrong hands” lol

camera is working great although it will not fire up in the setup window included with Dahua onboard firmware without a “plug-in” on my Mac which seems to me to miss the essence of an “ip” camera.

Tul9033
Tul9033
2 years 8 months ago

has anyone had any luck adding more camera to this Csotco/Sams DVR kit? I’ve got 2 more cameras to hook up to this system and only 4 poe ports on the DVR.
I’m thinking add a POE switch to one of the 4 rear ports to expand the # of ports available.
Seems I remember someone in this thread going over 4 in a similar way, but can’t find it.
Thanks

biter
biter
2 years 8 months ago

Hello! how to keep the stream from the camera on HTTP?

sorry for the mistakes – English is not my native language

David
2 years 10 months ago

Okay. Thanks for explaining the way they sell their cameras. I noticed that the China ed displays the days of the week in Chinese, but I don’t think that will impact me as I plan on using the cameras with Blue Iris. As far as I know, I can create any type of overlay in the software that is independent of what the camera can do as far as overlays go. Hopefully, that is correct. I’m watching the website to see if they get any of the cams in stock so that I can order a few to try out. Thanks again.

David
2 years 10 months ago

Hello- I’ve been reading through this blog, and it is great. I’m trying to decide on a camera system. I have the Blue Iris software that I’m using for a single wireless indoor camera. I want to add some outdoor cameras to monitor my property. I’m pretty sure that I will need at least 6 cameras to monitor everything that I would like to keep track on. That being said, I wanted to see what you thought of the camera DVR setup that they currently have at costco.com.

http://www.costco.com/Q-See-4-Channel-HD-NVR-Security-System-with-1TB-HDD-and-4-1080p-IP-Cameras.product.100079886.html

Are the Q-See QNC8004B cameras any good? The price for this setup is $799. I can purchase two additional Q-See QNC8004B cameras for another $349 at costco.com as well.

http://www.costco.com/Q-See-IndoorOutdoor-HD-1080p-2-Pack-IP-Bullet-Cameras.product.100054309.html

It almost makes more sense to me to purchase two of the 4 channel DVR systems to get 8 cameras, then sell/ebay/craigslist the two DVRs as I am planning on using the cameras with Blue Iris. I would also need to get a PoE router to provide power to the cameras.

Any help/comments that you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

noli
noli
2 years 10 months ago

Hi NCC,

Thanks a lot for this complete review which helped me take a decision ! I just received my camera and while playing with the web interface, I found the magical small button to have a proper aspect ratio in the live view ! At the bootom of the page you see 5 buttons, one shows “W:H”, just click and the select “Original” (instead of adaptive), and you’re done, the image now dispays correctly and not too wide !

ISS - IT and Security Solutions
2 years 11 months ago

Hi there,

We have video footage of robbers in night mode where they are approximately 3M away from the Dahua 1.3MP Camera at total darkness at night. On the NVR the footage is semi clear however we would like to enhance the footage and print out the faces for facial recognition. What is the best approch for this? i currently have the footage in .asf format and probably converting it to .avi and correcting the aspect ratio to 640 x 480 px.

Any suggestion please.

Thank you in advance

Francois

Buzz
Buzz
2 years 11 months ago

Hey Guys,

I just found this site and I really like the obious critic and reply from the networkcameracritic 😉

I would like to know if the cams found on aliexpress are originals or clones , as the price is not so much expensive… if clone do you have a link for a good worth site…

Also i see this cam doesn’t work under WIN 8, and that has been launched more than 1 year and would like to know if there is new rev coming or it is just the 3MP cam that replace this model ?

I’m quaite beginner in ip cam but wanted ideally get a wifi cam as more easy to connect… Is there a wifi model…

If not what is for you (networkcameracritic) the worthy quality / price ip cam on the market ? I need D quality and nigh view is also important but not the most…

thanks for your help good guys 😉

Thanks for all

Buzz

franco arcangeli
3 years 2 months ago

vorrei sapere come funzione il SW di centralizzazione quello da istallare sui pc
e il vostro SW per il controllo dei traker e in diretta poi con il video.grazie

Jack Hugs
Jack Hugs
3 years 2 months ago

Thanks NCC.

STAY AWAY from Windows 8 – its horrendous. I have to use it because of work but I detest it. Microsoft made two blunders that relegated them to their status today.
1. They originally shrink down Windows to fit on a phone (PocketPc) – it died.
2. They inflated a mobile OS to fit into desktops (Windows 8)
Both scenarios are just terrible.

Anyways, thanks for your help. I will go dig around on cam.it forums 🙂

jack hugs
3 years 2 months ago

I just purchased this camera from Amazon and though it works well in older versions of IE (Win 7), it wont work in IE and Win8. Also, FF just displays a ‘Quicktime’ emblem when trying to view the camera feed. Nothing plays – just the emblem.

Lots of config options but the lack of being able to actually view the video feed is kind of a big deal. 🙂

Works well with Blue Iris but I need web browser access too. On my works PC running Windows 8, I cant view the web feed from work!

Good review though people should be aware you need Win 7 and older IE to have the same experience as the reviewer.

Aaron
Aaron
3 years 3 months ago
Windows 8 and IE10 have Active X blocking turned on. Don’t count on any Q-See or Dahua IP cameras working on it until the firmware update things with a signed Active X component (good luck). It is very unfortunately that all these cameras/DVRs/NVRs aren’t designed to work with all browsers (interoperability is important to us, not to the OEM it seems). In IE10 you can click on the “Turn off ActiveX filtering” button and the top and it may work. There is also a trick I’ve used to download the webrec.cab, incompress it.. In there you will find an webrec.ini, Right click on it and install. Then it becomes a native plug-in to your system. Unfortunately when you do this, you may make the webrec not work when it tries to load on a different camera or DVR/NVR. Very aggravating. I really hope that Dahua reads posts like these and works on future fixes. On my Android phone I use ipcam viewer lite which seems to out perform the software the OEMs provide. However there is a long standing RTSP streaming bugs that these cameras suffer from that can distort the bottom half of the video stream… Again… Hope for… Read more »
Daniel Fraga
3 years 3 months ago

Just to warn users of this model: do not upgrade to 20130313 firmware. It contains a bug which prevents the camera from recording to FTP, so if you record video to FTP, stay with 20121031 (at least until Dahua fixes it).

Another issue I found is that ffplay can’t play the rtsp stream anymore 🙁 too bad). I’m waiting Dahua replies to my reseller to see if it’s safe to downgrade.

Kirk Sylvester
3 years 2 months ago

Hi Daniel, I just bought the camera and have been looking for the firmware, where did you find it?

But I’m glad I didn’t just yet after reading your comment. 🙂 I won’t upgrade unless I fins issues or learn of extra features. But it’s good to know where to get it since I couldn’t find the firmware on Dahua’s site… or anywhere else for that matter.

Daniel Fraga
3 years 2 months ago

Hi Kirk. Unortunately Dahua doesn’t provide the firmware directly to the user. You have to ask your reseller for it. 🙁

Nomar
Nomar
3 years 3 months ago

Hi networkcameracritic,

Awesome review site. Before I came upon your video of this mini bullet camera, I was thinking of a video surveillance system consisting of Foscam 8905W or Logitech Alert 750e cameras. Looking for a 2 to 3 camera system with a total expenditure of $500. I am thinking now of getting 2 of these along with a PoE switch connected to my Cisco DCP3825 Cable Modem/Wifi Router for remote monitoring with my iPhone 4S using either IP Cam Viewer Pro or Blue Iris. The only thing that I’m afraid of is that if I buy this through Amazon, I will have no technical support. I went to Empire Security Camera’s site and it doesn’t even look like they carry these anymore 🙁

Well, I’m hoping that I can get support here just in case I need a firmware upgrade.

Your thoughts on my train of thinking would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

phico
phico
3 years 3 months ago

Hello,

Please could you please tell me where I can find firmware for that webcam ?
I do not find them on Dahua support website ..

I have part of the image that is corrupted for some frames (with zoneminder and ffmpeg)

Maybe there is a firmware fix (I do not have that issue with other webcams model)

Philippe

Jose
Jose
2 years 7 months ago

Hi friend i have this camera and a ZoneMinder but i can’t view this in the server. I Test different setup but i dont see the camera image. Can you please send me the options then you use in the Camera Setup. Thank’s.

phico
phico
3 years 3 months ago

Thanks I’ll ask them but first I must check my zoneminder config.

By the way .. today night it is raining and I have a lot of false movement detection with PIR and rain drops … Do you have any tricks to avoid that ?

Tom
Tom
3 years 3 months ago

Unfortunately no. You have to get it from your re-seller/dealer. Got mine through Empire.

Daniel Fraga
3 years 3 months ago

Did you test recording video to FTP? The new firmware seems broken when recording to FTP. It doesn’t record anything.

Daniel Fraga
3 years 3 months ago

Hi Tom. I received the firmware from the re-seller and I upgraded it succesfully. But I notice it isn’t recording anymore events. I checked all the configuration and nothing helped. Do you have problem with recording motion events using the latest firmware (2.21 3/2013) too?

Thanks.

Tom
Tom
3 years 3 months ago

Yeah I was having the same issue with motion detect. I had to jack up the sensitivity to 6 before it started picking up any motion. This cam is going back for a IR/night vision problem (which was the reason I wanted to update the firmware to begin with, but that didnt solve the issue) So hopefully the replacement will have the older firmware. Have not tried using FTP, I have a NVR.

Daniel Fraga
3 years 3 months ago

Thanks. I sent an e-mail to Empire, since I bought from them too. Let’s see if I get it.

Tom
Tom
3 years 3 months ago

The new firmware for the Dahua versions (2.21 3/2013) adds https login, better help menus, more picture controls among other things. BTW whats the process to upgrade the firmware on the Qsee ones? Is it available on the Qsee website or do you have to call them or Costco?

Dâniel Fraga
3 years 3 months ago

Tom, is there a link available to download this new firmware?

Warren
Warren
3 years 3 months ago

Has anyone got motion detection emails to work? I have two of these that I bought at Costco. At first I was able to get them to send emails with images attached. One of them was sending them way to often though. The other not often enough. They didn’t seem to be obeying the settings. So I wound up disabling motion events on both. Today I thought I’d see if I could get it working more reliably. Now I can’t get an event from either of them. I did the email test and both are able to send emails just fine.

Maybe I’m just missing something silly. Here are my settings:

In Network->SMTP(E-mail)
Interval: 180 secs

In Event->Video Detect->Motion Detect
Enabled is checked
Working Period – all day every day
Anti-Dither: 5 secs
Sensitivity: 6 (this is most sensitive??)
Area: nothing masked
Send E-Mail is checked

Are there any other settings that I might be missing?

Thanks,
Warren

Tony
Tony
3 years 3 months ago

Mask an area you want to detect motion, I think that could be your problem.

Warren
Warren
3 years 3 months ago

Perhaps I did have it backwards. I assume that the blue boxes were the area to ignore motion, but after re-reading the doc I think it the other way. No luck either way though. All masked, none masked, some masked, I don’t get a single email. Do I need to reboot for changes to take effect or something?

I’m using the firmware from 12/7/12. Is there a newer, or better, version out there?

Thanks,
Warren

juan
juan
3 years 4 months ago

Hello,

I have an IP camera HFW2100 and sends alarms have attached detecion motion picture or video. Only text receipt with date and time.

Can you help?

juan
juan
3 years 4 months ago

Speak of alarms smtp (e-mail) with photo or video.
I only receive notice of the time and date.

Joem
Joem
3 years 4 months ago

Thanks.

Is the ridged ring a lock nut? I would hate to ruin the camera trying to loosen it if it is not.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 4 months ago

I leave all the cables attached, but I do unplug the power or POE while removing/installing.
I’ll then plug back in to focus and unplug once again to reassemble. Focusing is a manual trial and error process. I usually try and get some large text like a Dell server box for example and focus until the text is clearest/sharpest. I set it out about 10-15 ft. The lens length will totally depend on lens spec and even brand.

Joem
Joem
3 years 4 months ago

I am trying to change the lens in this camera from 6.0 to 4.2mm. I have never disassembled one before and wonder if there are gotchas waiting.

I have renmoved the middle circuit board with the lens mount. The mount seems has what looks like a geared ring at the side towards the lens. Is this a locking nut that should be loosened before trying to unscrew the lens itself?

Do I need to note how far the lens is screwed in for later replacement?

If I need to focus for the shorter lens, is there some secret or is it trial-and-error?

If focusing is trial-and-error, how much do I need to reconnect to get the camera to function (ribbon, 5-wire, 4-wire to LEDs)?

What is a good focusing distance? Hyperfocal?

Any other focusing hints?

Thanks,

Joe M

DGU
DGU
3 years 4 months ago

Hi, I have two questions about the motion detection. I installed Dahua cameras with a NVR (4-ch). But I don’t know what is the best way to set motion detection. If I set motion detection on NVR, should I turn off MD on the cameras? Also I have found that the MD (of the NVR) is almost not working under medium or low light conditions. Any way to solve this problem, besides to increase the sensitivity rate to 6? Thanks.

ohliuw
ohliuw
3 years 4 months ago

Hi,

I need an advice asap as I need to buy a camera in the next 24 hours.

I will need to install 2 cameras – one at the front and one at the back entrances. I would like to be able to see peoples’ face clearly if someone attempts to enters my home while we are away. Would the 2100 provide enough detail? How about the other brands that you mention – Aote, IPSCam, etc? any specific models? The price at Costco for $150 seems about right to me.

The most important feature I want to be able to have is to be able to upload the video offsite – to a cloud storage or at a friend. I also have a question for the 2100’s FTP feature. Does it keep the connection with the FTP server alive or it establishes a new session all the time? Also, I in the web interface, can I change the port of the FTP server? I would like to stream directly to an offsite ftp server, but would like to change the port since passwords will be sent in clear text.

Thanks.

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darethehair
darethehair
3 years 5 months ago

OK guys, time for me to jump in with my newbie questions 🙂

In short, wondering about using a camera like this for town ‘tourism’ purposes. Though I have dabbled for years with ‘indoor’ webcams/IPcams, I have never been able to afford/justify an ‘outdoor’ IP cam like this for my hobby uses. Am I to understand that to have a complete streaming website with this camera is the following:

1) This camera (though the IR lights are useless for me)

2) A POE injector like this:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-997-219&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29#scrollFullInfo

3) A router hooked to the internet (of course) and a regular ethernet cable (with a hole drilled to the ‘outside’ world)

4) A streaming service like the following (which I note other tourist sites use) which needs H264/RTSP IP cameras to work properly:

http://www.streamdays.com/home

One area that I am unclear on is minimum temperatures — where I live it can go down to -40C. Would this break the camera, or simply make it not work? What about rain?

I am a Linux guy, so by all means I want to avoid any proprietary ‘Windows only’ functionality 🙂

Thanks!

darethehair
darethehair
3 years 5 months ago

Time for another question 🙂

After reading a lot more carefully, I have noted that some models of Dahau bullet-style IP cameras have ‘fixed’ focal length lens (6mm typical?), but others have ‘variable’ focal length lens (3.3mm to 12mm?). If one wanted to avoid the hassle of swapping out lens, aren’t the ‘variable’ focal length lens models the way to go? Also, does this mean that you can ‘zoom’ with the browser controls — or do adjustments still need to be made manually?

The IPC-HFW3101C also seems to be 720p, just like the IPC-HFW2100, but with a variable focal length lens — albeit at a (much) higher cost.

Greg
Greg
3 years 5 months ago

Anybody running 2.100.QS00.9.R, build : 2012-12-07 on their Q-See QCN7001B’s? As far as I can tell, the most recent firmware update on Q-see’s website is from 2012-09-27.

I’m curious because I bought these units from the Costco website and when the package showed up, the manufacturer tampering tape on the camera boxes was cut as if the cameras had be opened. I’m wondering if perhaps the units were removed from their original boxes, updated, and then repacked as my firmware seems pretty new.

JeffL
JeffL
3 years 5 months ago

When you say that the ACTi’s are not much more than Dahua… The ACTi 1MP mini bullet (E41) looks like it’s about twice the price of the Dahua at the above mentioned web site. Am I missing something or just not looking in the best places for best ACTi pricing?

Marty
Marty
3 years 5 months ago

Good and bad for me.

I ordered one from them from their eBay store. It went very well and I got the camera in record time…of course they are HQ in my home state. I emailed them a question about lenses and never even heard back, so I guess their support stinks.

VBVBVBOGDANOV
VBVBVBOGDANOV
3 years 5 months ago

Hi,

Wanted to check if anyone ordered from empiresecuritycameras.com and see how their expiriance was? Did they provide support? Firmware updates? Etc.

Cheers,
VB

Warren
Warren
3 years 5 months ago
I got two of these cameras from Costco and so far so good. I don’t use an NVR – just using them as IP cameras. The docs are pretty terrible but I’ve been able to figure out most things. I’m able to access them remotely from IE but not Chrome or Safari on my Mac. It looks like it’s using QuickTime on mac and uses RTSP on port 554 which I haven’t forwarded (yet). I assume once I forward it correctly it will work just fine. This is where I’m confused though. I set the cameras to have static IP addresses on my local network. I couldn’t forward the same port to different IP addresses, so I changed the default ports on one of them from 85 and 37777 to something else. Then I could forward those ports to the unique camera IP addresses and access them remotely. What I really want is to embed an RTSP stream and/or periodic snapshots into a web page (using http://ip-address:9988/onvif/media_service/snapshot as specified above). But if port 9988 cannot be changed, how can I take a snapshot from each camera remotely? The router will only forward that port to one of them. Am I… Read more »
Oyvind
Oyvind
3 years 5 months ago

Hi,

Most routers will allow you to forward a specific external port to a different internal port number. Say you had three cameras on your network, all of them responding to port 9988, you could do this:

:9988 -> :9988
:9989 -> :9988
:9990 -> :9988

In other words, external requests for port 9988 goes to cam1 on port 9988, requests for port 9989 goes to cam2 (also on port 9988, of course), and so on.

Warren
Warren
3 years 5 months ago

Ahh. Duh. It seems so obvious now but I totally missed it. Thanks!

DGU
DGU
3 years 6 months ago

It seems that this kit at COSTCO are Dahua cameras and NVR at a very good price:
http://www.costco.com/Q-See-4-Channel-HD-Digital-NVR-with-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-4-HD-720p-IP-Cameras.product.100003211.html

Camera Noob
Camera Noob
3 years 6 months ago

It’s almost too good of a find … I’m now struggling to decide if I return the Costco system and buy a pair of cameras or just keep both since I need 6 cameras 🙂

Camera Noob
Camera Noob
3 years 6 months ago

The 4-Bullet Camera package with the 8-Channel DVR (normally $1,200 and up) is currently available at Sam’s club for $799 (online only) with free shipping, so it’s only $100 more for the additional 4 cameras compared to Costco’s package. Seems like a great deal! Valid from 2/14/2013 to 3/7/2013 while supplies last.

http://www.samsclub.com/sams/8-ch-4-cam-nvr-sys-4-hd-720p-ip-bul/prod9130159.ip?sprodId=prod9130159#desc

Camera Noob
Camera Noob
3 years 6 months ago

You reference the ZyXEL ES1100-16P 16-port PoE Switch in a lot of the posts I’ve seen on your blog and the CCTV forums. This switch is on sale at NewEgg until the 24th for $109 with instant discount and promo code for anyone looking to pick one up … seems like a decent price.

Thanks again for all the great info you provide!

Camera Noob
Camera Noob
3 years 6 months ago

Can I ask how high you typically mount your permanent bullet cameras? As I was reading though your reviews a lot of the picture look like the cameras are mounted pretty low, but I wasn’t sure if that was just because you were reviewing them or not. I’m have some spots about 8-10′ and am trying to decide if a bullet would be OK, or if I should get additional dome cameras instead.

Thanks!

Dâniel Fraga
3 years 6 months ago

Of all the cameras you reviewed, do you think there is some other brand/model which can compete with Dahua HFW2100? I mean, at the same price?

I found it for US$ 160 on ebay. Do you think this is the best camera for this price or is there some other you would prefer if you would buy?

Thanks.

Arnaud
Arnaud
3 years 6 months ago

Using it standalone, without DVR, I’m using the “motion detection” option.
Sensitivity : 1, only a small zone “blue” to detect only close movement. But I’m having sometimes, a huge amount of false detection… I put 1 on sensivity to avoid this kind of case…
I know that incorporated motion detection is not very good, but for the moment, it’s almost unusable. It’s very strange according to me. In this low sensitivity it shouldn’t trigger so frequently.

My IPCam is a European one.
Device Type IPC-HFW2100
Software Version 2.100.0001.0.R, build : 2012-10-31
WEB Version 3.0.0.0

thank you

Camera Noob
Camera Noob
3 years 6 months ago
Thank you very much for the time and effort you put in to your site and reviews. We recently had someone try to break in to our house, and I was getting lost in trying to wade through all the information on the internet. I found your site and you helped us understand and select a camera system to meet our needs very quickly. My wife and I greatly appreciate your efforts. We purchased the Costco Q-See IP camera solution you referenced above, along with 3.6mm lenses from M12 to improve the camera monitoring area. We would also like to purchase 1-2 dome cameras as two of our entrances have low overhangs and I’d like a more vandal-proof camera for those areas. Would you have any recommendations for a dome camera to go with The Q-See system? The Q-See NVR supports Dahua, Arecont Vision, Axis, Canon, Dynacolor, Panasonic, Samsung, Sanyo, Sony and Onvif cameras. I’d like to pay $300-ish or less for a camera. All the packages I see from Q-See include the QCN7002D as an indoor/outdoor camera, but Q-See’s web site says it’s indoor only. Q-See’s QCN8001D seems to fit the bill, and it has IR, but I can’t… Read more »
Tom
Tom
3 years 6 months ago

Yeah, port 85 on the Q-See branded cams, but you can change that back to 80 once you login.

Jamie
Jamie
3 years 6 months ago

Finding it impossible to view camera stream via web browser using IE. Even found some ActiveX instructions online and made the settings match, but still no go. Would you be willing to check your IE ActiveX setting and let me know what you have set?

Also at the Web Service 3.0 login screen you are given the choice between LAN and WAN. I’m just testing locally at this point, but what’s with difference between the two as far as the Web Service is concerned?

Thanks once again.

Jamie
Jamie
3 years 6 months ago

After further research, I’ve once again answered my own question. Here it is for the benefit of others. From the IP Camera Manual .pdf found on the included CD or at the Q-SEE website:

‘Accessing the camera will bring up the login
screen for the program. If you are connecting
locally, the default video stream will be the
larger Main Stream. Selecting WAN from the
choices in the Login window will default to
the lower-bandwidth Sub Stream. You can
choose to switch between either stream
once you have connected using the tabs
above and to the left of the video display.
The amount of activity on the network(s) can
affect the streaming rate from the camera to
your computer or mobile device.’

So basically the only difference is if you tick the LAN radio button, the image displayed on the LIVE tab after login is the Main stream, which is larger. If you tick the WAN radio button at login, the image displayed will be the Sub Stream, which is smaller. You can switch to either the Main stream or Sub stream at anytime after logging in regardless of the option selected at the login page.

Tom
Tom
3 years 6 months ago

I tried all the different active X settings I could find on the web but it never worked for me. Strangely enough Firefox and chrome worked for me, but of course you don’t get the full set of controls. And even then Firefox would work on one laptop but on my desktop it wouldn’t work. Or the Chrome would work on the laptop while on LAN, but not via WAN. Its very inconsistent as to what works. Using PSS works best and most consistently.

I think if you select WAN during log in, it defaults to the sub-stream to save bandwidth.

Marty
Marty
3 years 6 months ago

Are you using Windows 7? In order to get it to work, I had to turn UAC off.

Click start, control panel
Click User Accounts
Click Change User Account Control Settings
Drag the slider all the way to the bottom “never notify”

Reboot, and it should work for you assuming you set up the active x.

Good Luck, Marty

Jamie
Jamie
3 years 6 months ago

Well I ended up finding my own answer to the Internet Explorer and ActiveX problem. For those that may hit the same road block as I did, the solution is detailed in the following YouTube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EvqZw0q27U

And as the video states, the extra step is specifically for those running Windows 7, 64 bit.

Basically, in order for my ActiveX settings changes to stick, I had to make sure and run IE as Administrator. Mind you that does not mean logging into Windows as an Administrator User, this is right clicking IE and choosing ‘Run as administrator’.

These things should be this complicated. I really do hate IE and really wished this system worked with Google Chrome. I know someone else here said they were able to get it working in Chrome, but so far I’ve not been so lucky.

Anyway, I hope this helps someone else…

Jamie
Jamie
3 years 6 months ago

So I got my Q See system today from Costco, and I already have a problem.

I see myself as a very good computer and network troubleshooter, but for whatever reason, I can’t login to these cameras.

For starters, I can ping the camera just fine using, so I know it’s on the network. I breifly setup the NVR and the NVR displayed the image from the camera just fine. I wanted to access the setting of each camera just on my network, before going forward so I just hooked it up alone on my PoE switch along with my laptop. As I said, I can ping the ip address just fine. I can’t login to it however with IE or Chrome. Typing in the address just gets and error saying we can’t access the address.

I’m really stumped with this one. And I’ve tried the other cameras also. Same deal. I can ping, but I can’t login.

Thanks for some advice.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 6 months ago

The cameras and NVR are in different IP ranges and have different passwords. I hooked the camera directly to a laptop and set the IP of the laptop to 10.1.1.100 and then used the camera config tool to get the IP of the camera. I believe mine were .65 .64 .63 .62 This is off memory so you may need to verify the camera IP out of the box.
This is if you want to login to the camera itself and make changes. Camera userid/password default is admin/admin.

Tom
Tom
3 years 6 months ago

Yes, I am actually familiar with the HDMI over Ethernet but after reading up on it I had decided against it, partly because of the hit or miss experience ppl have had on monoprice, which is why I mentioned that I don’t want to deal with HDMI extenders in my original post. Even if they were reliable, running Ethernet cables is not an option anymore for me. Monoprice also carries some long HDMI cables but again I don’t want to run additional cabling through the walls at this point.

Joem
Joem
3 years 6 months ago

Jamie/Tom,

Thanks for pointing out the HDMI Extender. I had not heard of such a device. You may want to check out the MonoPrice web site before depending on it:

1) Extender uses 2 Cat5e/Cat6 cables, it does not apparently use Ehternet protocols. STP cables are recommended; UTP will work. You are definitely not using your network for the extension.

2) Some HDMI connections have been problematic because the devices at each end do not communicate well with each other, The extender can exacerbate this problem. Read the Customer Review tab on the MonoPrice page. Note that their tech support participates.

Joe M

tom
tom
3 years 6 months ago

I am also debating this. I can put the NVR with the rest of the AV stuff, but in case of a break in/smash and grab situation the thief would probably try to grab the first few valuable items he can see, in my case probably the netbook, tv, and stuff in the AV cabinet – which means more than likely the NVR will be gone as well, even if they don’t realize what it is. I could put the NVR in the locked closet with the rest of my home run and networking gear, but then no way to watch it on a TV/Monitor through HDMI. I dont want to deal with HDMI extenders etc.

I am leaning towards security over convenience at this point. I should be able to access the NVR webserver on a PC to manipulate it, even though as per the NCC review this interface is less than desirable compared to the native NVR menu? The other option would be to have a smallish flat panel monitor in the closet, but space is at a premium for me so that wouldn’t be optimal either…..

Jamie
Jamie
3 years 6 months ago

Tom,

Perhaps you can have your cake and eat it too. A while back I read about this HDMI over ethernet adapter:

http://lifehacker.com/5918457/hdmi-over-ethernet-adapter-extends-hdmi-connections-up-to-98-feet-saves-money

You could easily view your NVR on a remote TV using such a device.

And you could even use the remote control on your big screen if you use the technology that enables A/V equipment to be controlled behind closed doors:

http://www.smarthome.com/solution33.html

These two items allow you to view and control your NVR while having it securely tucked away some place else.

Just a couple of ideas.

Jamie
Jamie
3 years 6 months ago

I’m wondering if anyone has ever swapped out the Costco 6mm with the 2.8mm version from M12? I don’t know if I’ll need one that wide, but I’m just wondering.

http://www.m12lenses.com/M12-Mount-Mega-Pixel-Lenses-s/21.htm

Jamie
Jamie
3 years 6 months ago
First off: fantastic website with great, in-depth reviews. I’ve learned much in the past few days here since being assigned the task of providing and installing a security camera system for one of our remodeling clients. I have a few questions in regards to this camera, the Android and iPad/iPhone apps, and the Dahau NVR system. Here is what I had planned to do for our client. And before I start, I may be planning this incorrectly. Onward. I plan on installing 3 of these cameras under the eves outside her home and having them FTP motion events to a Synology DiskStation DS212J that has 2, 2TB drives installed. For the time being, I do not plan on using the built in Surveillance Station software. Power for these cameras will either be PoE from a PoE switch or via a power brick as I already have a power cable run to each location along with the ethernet cable. I’ve watched the youtube videos that show the iPad/iPhone apps made by Dahau. They look pretty slick. Can the apps connect directly to the cameras or must the app connect to their NVR? I need the ability to view the three cameras… Read more »
ST
ST
3 years 6 months ago

What I thought.
Thanks

ST
ST
3 years 6 months ago

No Costco nearby
I see Sam’s is also selling q-see
Any of those units comparable?

Joem
Joem
3 years 6 months ago

@Tul9033, Thanks for the info on the lenses.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 6 months ago

I ordered the “A” and that’s the one I’m having problems with. It took about 2 weeks from China. Now I’m going back to the ones from M12 which work fine.
I have 2 from M12 and 2 from AnyKeeper and the AK one’s will not fire the IR cut.

Greg
Greg
3 years 5 months ago

Just so I understand, if you were to swap the problematic cameras back to the stock 6mm lenses, will the IR cut then function normally again?

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 2 months ago

Won’t let me reply to your newest post.
Try the camera in its current configuration and see if you like what you see. Or you could set the next one with the focus at a longer range and then compare the 2.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 5 months ago

That is correct, going back to the stock 6mm lenses the IR cut worked correctly. Also using the M12 Mega 3.6 lense the IR cut worked fine. The Anykeeper 3.6 lense gave me issues, of the 6 cameras I have the IR cut did not work in 5 of the 6.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 6 months ago

I have 2 more brand new cameras and just put the 3.6mm from AnyKeeper in each of those. One will activate the IR cut and the other won’t, go figure.
The bolts on the back of the camera are 2mm metric hex by the way.
Guess I’ll order some lenses from M12 tomorrow.

Greg
Greg
3 years 5 months ago

Tul,

I’m curious as to how the additional M12 lenses worked out? I just bought (2) Q-see’s from Costco and want to try my hand at the lens swap. Any tips so as not to break it during dis-assembly? Thanks!

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 5 months ago

The M12 3.6 Mega Pixel lenses worked flawlessly. Use a 2mm metric hex key to get the bolts out and you shouldn’t have any problem with stripping. Once the cover is off use a 3mm precision philips head to remove the lense cover. Be sure to focus the new lense before putting it all back together. I’d recommend keeping the power off the camera until you have the lense replaced then power it up, focus it, and power it off to put it all back together.
I’ve done it nearly 2 dozen times trying different lenses. Now I have a stack of lenses that I’ve tried or replaced.
Be sure you have the sensor in the correct orientation before reassembly or you could end up with a sideways image.

Greg
Greg
3 years 2 months ago

So I finally got around to doing the lens swap on these cameras from 6mm to 4mm from AnyKeeper (MTV-3618B-B). I had no problem thanks to the awesome instructions here from Tul and Oyvind.
My IR cut filter still functions just fine and I have not noticed any IR light bleed issues. The image quality seems comparable but stupidly I did not take any “before” shots. I’m going to do before and after shots for my second camera to see if I’m losing any image quality when swapping to the AnyKeeper lens.
I focused the camera on an object about 8 feet away from the front of the lens. I feel like this was a dumb move since I will typically be viewing subject matter that is about 20 feet from the camera. Unscrewing those hex screws is a bit of pain to do unnecessarily. How far away was the object that you guys focused in on?

Greg
Greg
3 years 5 months ago

Thanks Tul, Oyvind and Mr. Critic! This is what makes the internet so awesome!

So, I took the risk and ordered some 3.6mm type B lenses from AnyKeeper. Specifically, the MTV-3618B-B units ($4/ea). I was feeling cheap, but also wanted to verify for this community if I have better success with the 1 megapixel version vs. the 3 megapixel units that I believe Tul previously ordered. I’ll follow up once the swap and test is complete!

Oyvind
Oyvind
3 years 5 months ago
I haven’t tried lenses from M12, but I have tried a 3.6 mm from Anykeeper. The procedure for swapping the lens is fairly easy, but you need to be a bit careful. Step by step (as I remember it): 1) Unscrew the three hex bolts that holds the housing together. 2) Unscrew the three philips screws that holds the lens board to the front part of the housing. Be careful with the cables that connect the lens board to the rear board. 3) When the lens board is free, disconnect the connector that goes to the IR-board, so that you can set aside the front of the housing. 4) Unscrew the lock ring that holds the lens, then unscrew the lens. 5) Fit the lock ring on the new lens, and then screw the new lens to the lens mount, but don’t screw it in too far initially. Now you need to focus the new lens, and to do that you must power up the camera. Just hold the lens board (and the rear housing) in your hand and point it at something suitable for focussing, and carefully rotate the lens until you get a sharp image. Focus at something… Read more »
Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 6 months ago

Do you happen to have any other cameras in the area? I have had some issues with the IR from other cameras causing reflections when in close proximity to other cameras.
That definitley looks like a halo being picked up from the glass. I would try turning the lens out a bit and see if it goes away, yes it will be out of focus a bit but you will know if it is a problem with the distance from the front glass to the lens. The picture looks good otherwise.

I’m having my own problem with the 3.6mm Mega lens. I swapped my other 2 cameras from 6.0 to 3.6 and now the 3.6 cameras won’t switch to night mode. The IR lights are on, but I’m not getting a black and white picture, still pitch black. Only thing I did was swap the lenses out.

Joem
Joem
3 years 6 months ago

I have seen one site with flavors of X.Xmm MEGA lenses (http://www.anykeeper.com/china-wholesale-cctv-lens/megapixel-cctv-lens.html). They say the “A” is a 3 megapixel lens and the “B” is a 1 megapixel lens. I have been unable to find what that difference means. If there is some geometry difference that could account for some IR leakage.

If anyone knows what the difference is, please post.

Marty
Marty
3 years 6 months ago

Is there an easier way of adjusting the lens without taking the whole thing apart again?

I’m going to take a sharpie and add some more ink to the sun shield and see if that makes a difference.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 6 months ago

Here is a link with shots of the exact problem and discussion of it:
http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32694&start=60
It seems that the 6mm version comes with more IR LED’s than the 3.6mm version.

My IR issue has me wondering if it is the lenses. I got the 2nd set from a different supplier. Both read Mega 3.6, but only the 2nd set are having the IR cut issue, first set are working fine. I’m reading something about lenses being IR rated.
Coincidence that the 2nd set are having an issue with IR?

Marty
Marty
3 years 6 months ago

First off, I would like to thank Tul9033 for selling me one of his 6mm lenses for a great price and shipping it so quickly.

Second here is a comparison of the 2 lenses and can someone tell me what is causing the white halo up top of the night photos with the new lens. It doesn’t do that during the day.

https://picasaweb.google.com/115034558220753943849/LensComparison?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCJnbxbLE-eSxLQ&feat=directlink

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

Try either the Mega Pixel 6.0mm F1.8 lens (PT-0618MP) or the M12 6.0mm F2.0 (PT-0620). Both available at M12. My first recommendation would be the Mega Pixel but it is out of stock.
My Q-See came with the Mega.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 6 months ago

I just replaced my 6mm Mega with a 3.6mm Mega and it’s a winner. The M12 3.6 was much shorter and caused reflection issues. If anyone needs the 6mm let me know.
The Megs lens is what I would recommend for the Q-See and Dahua.

Marty
Marty
3 years 6 months ago

I would like the 6mm. How much do you want for it? You can email me at:

noscope

@

triad.rr.com

Marty
Marty
3 years 7 months ago

I emailed both M12 for a restock date and Empire for suggestions. If I hear anything I’ll let you know. Thanks for the suggestions.

Marty
Marty
3 years 7 months ago

Hello Marty,
We will have them in stock early February.

Thank you,

Tharaka Goonetilleke,
M12 Lenses Inc.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

I’ll trade you the 6.0 for the 3.6. Email me @ my userid at hotmail

Marty
Marty
3 years 7 months ago

Thanks for the offer, but I’m looking for one to buy. I’m definitely keeping the 3.6mm until I make sure the 6.0mm is what I need. After that, I can hit you up.

Marty
Marty
3 years 7 months ago

I just purchased this camera from Empire. I got the 3.6mm version. I have seen several post of folks trying to find a 3rd party 3.6mm lens, but I’m having the opposite issue. I have the 3.6mm and want to go to 6mm. Has anyone tried that? Can someone recommend a good lens to try?

Great blog btw. I based my purchase largely from what I read here. You are right about the white balance being a little out of whack, but I just didn’t want to spend an extra $200 for a better picture for what I’m using the camera for.

Crippo2
Crippo2
3 years 7 months ago

Reference streaming using VLC – & thank you for the help – I have found that if you add your username & password before the external Ip address, the camera will read and accept it. I have also changed to the substream, which works better for me.
So the string becomes: rtsp://username:password@0.0.0.0:554/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=1

regards & thanks

Chris HJ

Byron W
Byron W
3 years 7 months ago

Has anyone tried to connect the Q-See camera in “iSpy” or “IP Camera Viewer-Andriod app”? I have made several attempts with no luck. I have Foscom and various other brands configured under those two applications and they are configured and accessible. I also noticed that this camera is not listed under their selection of cameras.

Has anyone compared the firmware and software in the camera from Costco and the one directly from Dahua. I am assuming they are both the same and Q-See only places their name in the firmware or software. The reason for this question is, can I choose the Dahua instead of the Q-See under the selection of cameras?

ukie
ukie
3 years 7 months ago

Thank you for the great review.
I just got this camera and was wondering if it is possible to get an http or html stream from the camera? This is the only way I can connect it to SecuritySpy on my Mac.

ukie
ukie
3 years 7 months ago

The snapshot link is really helpful. Thanks.
For some reason I can only access the camera locally.
After setting up all the port forwarding, I still cannot access the RTSP stream using my dyndns domain.
Also, did anyone get the Multicast working? I can’t access it from VLC.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

In case the html doesn’t work here are the links:

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I sent the pictures to M12, they said they might have suggestions after seeing the pictures.

Joem
Joem
3 years 7 months ago
Can you tell if the ring you are seeing is the front of the camera housing or the plastic mount that came with the lens? If it is the housing, you will never see what is hidden in the corners behind the vignetting. If you need a corner to corner view you only choice is to get a longer lens with a narrower angle of view. The smaller field will not show corner vignetting, but you will not see as much at the non-corner edges. Your choice. If the problem is due to the plastic mount, you might fare better with a different lens manufacturer. I doubt that this is the issue unless the sensor in these cameras has greater area than the norm. In that case you would need to find a 3.6mm lens with a wider angle of coverage. You would probably also the same problem with the different length lens from this same manufacturer. If you are familiar with photography, you can think of this as the problem you have using a DX lens on a FX camera. Please keep us posted on your progress. I will be trying this in the future. I could try it… Read more »
Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago
I’m pretty sure the ring is the camera housing. While adjusting the focus with the camera housing off the dark corners were not visable. What is odd is that when the lights go out the ring beceomes much more aparent but looks like a tube with somewhat clear sides. You can still make out what is outside the ring but it is “foggy”. Might be IR bouncing back. I’ll take the front housing off Monday and test in the dark and see what it looks like. I’ve seen these Q-See cameras sold with a 3.6mm lens so I assumed they were coming with a 3.6 lens option from the factory (I know the Dahua does). However, they might be being added by resellers or they are just getting the specs wrong. I’m tempted to try a few larger FL lense like a 4.0mm but it only comes in a F2.0. I really don’t know how or if the F stop could cause this, the lense I have now is a F2.1. I believe the F refers to how big the hole is, maybe that slightly larger hole is letting the endge of the housing into view. Totally a laymans guess.… Read more »
Joem
Joem
3 years 7 months ago

Mosez reports that the mega pixel version had no vignetting. I don’t see how the vignetting can be coming from the camera housing then. You miight be able to test by putting a corner of a card on the housing just in the field of view. If the corner is about as much out of focus as the vignette ring, then the card is about as far from the lens as the vignette cause. If the card is substantially sharper, it is further from the lens than the vignette cause.

Both 3.6mm lens show 85 degrees of coverage and the ability to cover a 1/3 sensor. Maybe the specs are a little iffy.

The f stop of the lens should not influence the angle of coverage. Some cheaper lenses can have slight vignetting at maximum aperture, but not what you are describing (this is in the 35mm camera world).

A larger aperature (f/2 versus f/2.1) will provide more light to the sensor and a shallower depth of field. f/2 passes twice the light of f/2.8. It would be tough to see the difference between f/2 and f/2.1.

Mosez
Mosez
3 years 7 months ago

I’ll post day and night picutes for reference tonight.

FWIW: I recall the camera actually has a (foam) ring that shields the lens from IR light bleed/bounce as is shown on Tul9033’s pictures.

I noticed that Tul’s ‘daylight’ picture shows indeed some vignetting. My guess is that Tul’s 3.6mm lens is too short. My 3.6 MEGA lens fits perfectly as you’ll be able to see. It has an actual glass lens and metal housing. Feels rather substantial too.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

Those look great Mosez. I’ve got 4 on order from Anykeeper in China, they were $6 each. M12 will have more next week.

Mosez
Mosez
3 years 7 months ago

The lens I installed is indeed the PT-03618MP 3.6mm, F1.8 Mega Pixel.

Pictures at the links below. Mind you, BlueIris jpeg quality was set to 50%.

Day mode:

Night mode:

Hope this helps.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

Thanks Mosez, pictures would be great. Did you get the PT-03618MP 3.6mm, F1.8 Mega Pixel CCTV Board Lens? I’m really curious how the F1.8 looks.
From my experiment with moving the lens out, I agree the lenses could be different lengths. I will get measurements of the Mega 6.0mm that came with the camera and the M12 3.6mm. The M12 lens looks and feels like a quality lens, just not working out for me.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

Here are the pictures:

Joem
Joem
3 years 1 month ago

I had a similar bleed problem when I substituted at 4.2mm lens. I made a small donut from a foam blank (insulation for exterior switch/recepticle box and it went away.

On a related note, does anyone know of a good source for the ribbon cable used in this camera? (30-pin, 0.5mm pitch, 15mm wide, 80 mm long contacts on opposite sides, labelled as HUNG AWM2898 E97252-H VW-1 80C 30V) I managed to break a lead.

Thanks

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

I had some issues getting the hex bolts out, it’s definitely metric. A 5/64th is slightly too small and will strip the head if they are in tight. I used a ultra small 2.0mm flathead to get them out since I don’t have a metric allen set here at work.

The difference in height between the stock Mega 6.0mm and the M12 3.6 is about plus 2.0mm to the Mega. The aperature is also about twice as big on the Mega. Pictures below:

Stock 6.0 Mega on top and M12 on bottom

Stock Mega 6.0mm installed

M12 3.6mm installed

I experimented with making a skirt with black tape on the bottom of the lens but it didn’t make a big difference.
I’m waiting for Mosez to post his shots, I found the Mega Pixel F1.8 3.6mm in China 2x for $14.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

Front:

Back:

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

Our wires are crossed somehow. Do you have the camera? If so take a look at it. I 100% understand and tried to convey that the lense and the LED’s are totally separated, I’ll leave it at that without explanation; they are separated. This problem does not exist with the 6.0mm lens.

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 7 months ago

I’m not seeing how this is IR bleed. I’ve had these cameras apart several times now and tube that encapsulates the lens is all encompassing and extends to the outside of the front glass. The IR emitters are totally separated from the lens. I am experimenting with the camera right now. If I extend the lens by twisting it out the dark corners will go away and eventually the ring ghosting goes away too. Of course it’s way out of focus by then but, it appears that by getting the lens closer to the glass the problems is eliminated. You can’t make out much detail at that point.
I’m suspicious of the M12 3.6mm lens at this point. Not necessarily that it’s defective, but that the FOV ratios just aren’t compatible with this camera.

Joem
Joem
3 years 7 months ago

I know nothiing about IR light bleed and its effects. The separate phenomenum helps reconcile why you and Mosez are seeing different results.

jmayes
jmayes
3 years 8 months ago

Noob question… I’m going to be surface mounting these and running the cable on the outside of my house (along the siding). Having never installed a camera before, I’m not quite sure how to approach this. Is there a good box people are using to house the pigtail. Should I mount the camera on the box cover or next to the box? Any advice or DIY tutorials would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Byron W
Byron W
3 years 8 months ago

I have done some research on this camera. I was wondering if anyone can verify if the camera 2 pack from Costco (link: http://www.costco.com/.product.689950.html#BVRRWidgetID ) is the same camera we are talking about here?

Tul9033
Tul9033
3 years 8 months ago

Any updates on the lens swap out?

Mosez
Mosez
3 years 8 months ago

I have the Q-See QCN7001B incarnation of this camera. Two things:

1) I’m powering this camera through a TRENDnet Gigabit PoE Injector (TPE-113GI). Works perfectly, so whomever is claiming at Empire Security Cameras that injectors don’t work may have ulterior motives.

2) I setup the camera to upload it’s video and snapshot files to my Ubuntu ftp server. That seems to work. What doesn’t seem to work, is the ‘Alarm’ tab of the camera’s built-in web server. I presume that I should be able to see a log here of alarms and either download or replay the associated video and snapshots, should I not? Whatever the purpose of this tab is, it never fully loads and I don’t see any alarm records. Anyone seen this working? If so, what is your configuration (Windows/Mac, version, browser type and version)?

Thanks in advance for your concern.

Dâniel Fraga
3 years 4 months ago

Mosez, do you use the TPE-113GI injector with a 48V power supply or 12V power supply? Thanks.

Mosez
Mosez
3 years 4 months ago

I use the injector with the power adapter that was included. It’s rated 48 volt / 18 watt. Works like a charm.

Paul
Paul
3 years 8 months ago

I got this Netgear unit for around $175:

Tom
Tom
3 years 8 months ago

Yes it means it takes a 12V connection to the round connector OR PoE to the RJ45. I have mine hooked up to an unmanaged Netgear 4+4 PoE switch and it works fine.

Scott Lamb
3 years 8 months ago

Thanks for the review! It’s hard to find good camera information. I’m going to order some of these.

But I’m confused by Dahua’s power specs: “DC12V, PoE(802.3af)”. 802.3af supplies 48V (after negotiation). So this seems contradictory. What do they mean by 12V? Are they saying it accepts either 12V (maybe on that round connector I see in your picture) or standard 802.3af (over the RJ45 connector of course)? Or if that round connector isn’t power, what is it?

I talked with Empire Security Cameras, who said that injectors will not work. I imagine they’re thinking of the non-standard “passive PoE” injectors I see on Amazon. They said you must use a managed PoE switch and suggested the Netgear ProSafe line. Those use 802.3af, so I imagine any switch or injector that speaks 802.3af would work. Sound right?

Paul
Paul
3 years 8 months ago

Hi, I saw that you ordered 3 mm lens from dx.com for $2.10 each, so I ordered some as well. They arrived a few days ago, so I’m guessing yours have arrived also. Are you going to post a How-To showing the installation process? Thanks!

Mosez
Mosez
3 years 8 months ago

I second this request. Very interested in the results as well.

Tom
Tom
3 years 9 months ago

I dont know about that…I have 2 QSee branded and 2 Dahua branded ones. One of the Dahuas is a dome version of the mini bullet. I can access and view via the cam webserver on Chrome(latest), Firefox(latest)and IE8 but on different computers and while on my LAN. There are a few extra controls that are visible when you have ActiveX running, either through native IE or using IE tabs for FF or Chrome. I tried Firefox and IE on the Internet and it didnt work (even with the same computers that worked while on my LAN). I know my dyndns and port forwarding is working because I can log in, just no picture. Best results on internet seem to from using the Android app – but then you are limited to the sub-stream.

Chris HJ
Chris HJ
3 years 9 months ago

I have not yet tried over the net, only within my LAN, just hope i can get the pictures, but reading your reply does not hold up huge hope.
I agree you can use FF (I know nothing about chrome) with IE tab plug in installed, and that works OK, but it is still IE & you still have to install the activex control.
what I wanted to do was run it natively in firefox, because the web camera software does not work on windows 8 (yet!)
After further work I now have it running on Firefox, in Windows 8, but still within my LAN.
There is a new version of Quicktime, which has a plug-in for firefox. The quality seems about the same, but there is a several second delay between event & picture. Still much better than white screen!

Chris HJ
Chris HJ
3 years 9 months ago

Recently bought one of these cameras. Looks & feels solidly built.
My intended use is only through the camera web interface, over the internet, to view when I want.

Two point to note:
Firstly the web interface only works with Internet Explorer – the camera on first connection to a PC wants to download some ActiveX software (webrec.cab). This is not a problem of itself – the instructions tell you how to go about it. but, if you are not using IE, then no ActiveX, so no pictures. Firefox, Chrome etc just will not work to give any video, so be aware of this. Interestingly the admin screens load & you can setup the camera, just nothing to view.

Second point is IE 10 in windows 8 does not work either. The ActiveX component (webrec.cab) downloads, but all that happens in the picture part of the viewing PC screen turns white. Apparantly this is being worked on.

Anyone tried going back to IE 9 on Win 8?

aparvata
aparvata
3 years 9 months ago
Hi, First up, I am extremely glad that I discovered this blog. I have been trolling through the websites for a couple of days in vain for an objective advice for my needs. Here is a quick summary. I am new to network cameras and am looking for a network camera as a perimeter security device to give me that precious extra seconds to react on a break-in or invasion. I am more interested in deterrent/security of my family. To that end, I wanted to install a network camera at my front door (and patio if I succeed with first one). I am looking for a wireless (Do not want the hassle of dealing with fishing wires etc.), decent quality camera. The most important feature to me is the PUSH alert to my iphone with streaming video and with the LEAST LATENCY possible so I can call 911. I looked at the Foscam bullet and now the Dahua, thanks to you. And I am thoroughly confused as well regarding the way push notifications are done. So, what would you recommend for under $ 300. Secondly, is it true that the push notifications happen via the internet and thus wasting time… Read more »
Roger
Roger
3 years 9 months ago

Does anybody know what brands this might be under on amazon.com? I saw Empire on there, but they aren’t responding to a question I had about which lens shipped with the product.