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Dahua IPC-HFW2100 1.3MP Mini Bullet Review

Here’s an outdoor rated mini bullet that fits smaller budget yet does a very good job for less money than it’s rivals. In comparison to the Dahua mini dome I reviewed that costs the same price, it has 1080P resolution (or 2MP) and this camera forgoes resolution down to 1.3MP for more features. Most importantly is that it’s a true day/night camera with an automatic IR cut filter and it has a very bright IR illuminators making is usable in dark situations.

Main Features

  • 1/3” 1.3Megapixel progressive scan Aptina CMOS
  • H.264 & MJPEG dual-stream encoding
  • Max 15fps @ 1.3M (1280×960) or 30fps @ 720P (1280×720)
  • 3.6mm fixed lens (6mm, 8mm optional)
  • Day/Night IR Cut Filter
  • IR LED working distance 20m
  • IP66 Rated Outdoor Bullet
  • Powered by PoE
  • Smartphone apps available

Overall, this is an impressive camera with very good image quality, good low light performance, well-organized menus and very small. The IR illuminators are very bright and wide, better actually than its big brother, the IPC-HFW3200C that I reviewed recently.

This is what the web interface looks like when you first log in. There’s options to take a snapshot, manually record, chose a stream and more.

Across the top are tabs for Live (live viewing), Set (configure the camera), Alarm (setup alarms) and Logout. When you click on the Set tab, it takes you this configuration screen.

Motion detection areas are cleverly set by clicking boxes to cover or expose the image. The exposed areas are where you don’t want motion detection and can be any shape that you can create using the box grid.

Configuring the resolution and streams is done on this screen where you can see the choices available.

This camera does not have an SD card slot like the other Dahua cameras I previously reviewed. You can have video events sent to a FTP server.

Now onto the images, how well does this camera perform. I mounted the camera at two places, one at the front of my garage, under the eave,and in my backyard because they represent different lighting situations. This camera had the 3.6mm lens which is fairly wide and covered most of front of my home. Surprisingly, when the camera was set to 1.3MP, objects were about the same size as with the 1080P mini dome using the wider 2.8mm lens, just did not cover as wide an area. If you don’t need to cover as wide an area, this resolution works pretty well.

One downside I noticed to choosing 1.3MP on this camera is the web interface displays the image in a wide-screen format instead of the 4:3 ratio of 1.3MP. I’m hoping this gets fixed in future firmware releases. When viewing images or recordings using their NVR or NVR software like BlueIris or when viewing recorded video, the image aspect ratio is correct. I do want to add that I tested this camera with BlueIris and it worked quite well and the recordings were smooth.

As with my other reviews, click on the images below to see the full size image, straight from the camera.

A slight disappointment with this camera is that white balance is not as accurate as the 1080P cameras from Dahua in all situations. There are hue adjustment to make it closer to what it should be. Not all scenes experience this problem. I expect that this may be correct in future firmware updates.

During the day, in my backyard, the color accuracy was much better.

At night the IR illuminators do a great job of lighting up the area with nice wide even lighting.

This image is taken in darkness with no other lights on. The fence on the far end with the two potted palms is about 50′ away. One disadvantage of the powerful illuminators is that people who are close to the camera are overexposed a bit.

To show you how small the camera is I put it next to the Dahua IPC-HFW3200C that I reffer to as its big brother.

I uploaded day and night videos to YouTube. To see them at the full 720P resolution, you must click on the gear icon and select 720P resolution and then click on the icon with 4 corners to see the video full screen.

The street price for this camera is about $199 and is a good deal for a camera with these features.

The pluses for this camera are;

  • Price
  • 720P at 30fps (or 1.3MP at 15fps)
  • Very bright IR illuminators
  • Day/Night IR Cut Filter
  • Smartphone apps – everyone wants to access their cameras from smartphones these days

The shortcoming of the camera are;

  • You must rely on your reseller for support
  • White balance issues in some cases
  • Displays wide screen format on the web interface even when you chose a different format

Click here to go to the company web page for the camera

 

 

 


277 Responses to “Dahua IPC-HFW2100 1.3MP Mini Bullet Review”


  1. 1 Pentafive
    September 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    1st off – Thank NCC for another great camera review! I just got this camera yesterday and so far it has been doing very well. I was surprised by it size, performance and price. However, there is one MAJOR drawback to this camera. The reset button for the camera is on the back! If you just push the button while it is powered it won’t do anything. If you push and hold it while powered up it will reset the camera to factory defaults – a big security issue! You can see a view of the back here: IPC-HFW2100 Back View

    My plan to address this problem is two fold:

    1. Figure out a way to cover it with out making it permanent.
    2. Mount it so the button is out of reach.

    It is worth pointing out that the big brother (IPC-HFW3200C) has the button in the pigtail cable.

  2. 2 TGHD
    September 15, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Not bad for $185 cameras! These Dahua’s are making IP cameras at my work a possibility.

    I hope Empire gets some IPC-HDW2100 and IPC-HD2100 cameras soon.

    Thanks for the review!

  3. 3 Michael
    September 15, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    Thanks for the review. What other Dahua products will you be reviewing? I’m building up a system and really appreciate the detail of your reviews.

  4. 6 Tony
    September 16, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    Thanks for doing this, I started installingcctv cameras a year ago to my house and found it cool to have an extra eye out there. A couple weeks ago a friend needed me to install cameras and wanted me to get high quality video cameras. I didn’t realize, now, that the future will be going to MP IP cameras. Googled around and found Dahua to be a good brand and well priced. But I needed reviews to back those claims up. Empire security pointed me to your website and you did a very good job on the reviews, video playback, quality built, User Interface ( because that is important to people who don’t know how to navigate there way around ) and functionality. I hope you continue to follow through in the future and not let this site die. Thank you.

  5. 7 Jim Brien
    September 16, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    This website is great and the reviews very helpful. However, there is a lot here to go through so what I’d really appreciate is a periodic “this is what I recommend” posting or “these are the 5 I currently think are best”. You’re clearly and expert on this and rather than read dozens of reviews and try to figure out what to get, it would be helpful to have the options narrowed down.

    Also, do you have an email address where someone could contact you? I did not see it listed on this website.

    • 8 networkcameracritic
      September 16, 2012 at 10:06 pm

      I feel your frustration, but every camera has pluses and minuses and they are different for every one. For example, I may recomend a camera with features you don’t need and cost hundreds more because I think it’s better, but if you don’t need the extra features, is it really better. For example, I recomend Mobotix to communities because it’s a great camera, NVR is built into the camera. I can tell you that would be on my top 5, but then you may say, wait a minute, I can’t afford $1,500 per camera.

  6. 11 Sputnik
    September 17, 2012 at 1:26 am

    Hi,

    I noticed on Dahua’s website that there’s a 1080p version of this camera (HFW3200S).
    Wondering if you have any idea as to when that version will be available?

    I like the smaller size and the lower power consumption, but the video quality of the bigger HFW3200C is obviously better. I wonder if HFW3200S’s video quality will be comparable to HFW3200C’s (since according to the specs, the sensor sizes are the same).

  7. 12 TGHD
    September 17, 2012 at 9:46 am

    I too am interested in the HFW3200S since I think it will fit my outdoor needs better.

    I can’t comment on the video quality of the S vs C; however, the specs are similar like you mentioned Sputnik. The biggest differences (aside from size and power consumption) I see are the lack of audio, alarm in/out, and the fixed lens. I am assuming it has the same pigtail as he HFW2100 as well.

    • 13 networkcameracritic
      September 17, 2012 at 10:01 am

      Hold onto that interest just a little bit longer. It’s slated to be released at the end of November. And that’s wholesale, so it may well trickle to resellers by late December. Lets hope in time for Christmas :) I would expect it to be like it’s bigger brother without the varifocal lens, audio, sd card slot and possibly more.

  8. September 17, 2012 at 10:33 am

    If anyone interested in buy this product in US checkout http://www.ad-hocsecurity.com/15-ip-cameras They really have good prices for Dahua cameras and their free AHS+ NVR ip camera software is great. I am not advertising for these guys.. this is an honest opinion based on my experience with them.

    • 15 TGHD
      September 17, 2012 at 2:32 pm

      Thanks for your honesty! It is reassuring that you stated that you were not advertising for them. At first I thought you were advertising for AHS since your posts were deleted and your account banned at CCTV forum for, well, advertising AHS. But I must be mistaken since you typed that you are not advertising!

    • 16 TGHD
      September 17, 2012 at 3:27 pm

      Apologies to NetworkCameraCritic. It is not my place to go and flame someone on your website. I was a bit overzealous due to ipcamxprt and another user on CCTV forum that were spamming AHS. I am new to CCTV and people like that had almost swayed me a few different occasions until I found good sites like this and CCTV forum.

      I don’t understand why a place like AHS does this. There seems like a big demand for Dahua in the US, so there is no need for theatrics in selling their products.

  9. 18 nowlan
    September 18, 2012 at 7:01 am

    I was looking at these cameras. Cheaper than their bigger brothers.

    How big of an issue is the fixed lens?
    3.6mm fixed lens (6mm, 8mm optional)

    Affects how wide the shot is? How close/far the object is to focus properly?

    Anything else is firmware (fixable?)

    • 19 networkcameracritic
      September 18, 2012 at 8:15 am

      Lens determines the angle of view where 3.6mm is a wide angle lens, 8mm is a telephoto lens. The varifocal is sort of like a manual zoom, you can set the focal length by unscrewing the front of the camera and setting it with a wand and then re-focusing.

  10. 20 Kawboy12R
    October 2, 2012 at 5:44 am

    Thanks for the great reviews. Much appreciated.

    Any chance of you including a couple of new tests? Facial shots at night of someone walking up to the camera from a distance and a license plate distance test during the day and at night. Simply driving up to the camera should be good. Lights on approaching and then maybe coast out with lights off at night. I’m looking at new cameras for my driveway and yard and those are the two biggies- identifying who was there last night from faces or plates. Many IR cameras can’t tell a plate at night even with the headlights off because the IR glare washes out the digits.

    Does the Dahua PSS software work for recording this camera rather than just displaying it or is recording limited to FTP servers? I noticed another Dahua review here where the included PSS software could view the cam but not record. I didn’t notice this specifically mentioned in this article.

  11. 21 Mike
    October 8, 2012 at 2:52 am

    I am wondering – which firmware was installed when you tested the camera and what’s the current latest firmware number for this camera?

    • 22 networkcameracritic
      October 8, 2012 at 8:30 am

      The camera was sent back, so I don’t know what the firmware was at the time.

      • 23 Mike
        October 8, 2012 at 9:49 am

        Understood.
        What about the latest firmware? Do you know (or maybe can find out) which one is the latest?
        TIA.

        • 24 Greg
          March 7, 2013 at 11:16 pm

          Mike,

          I’m not sure if it’s the latest, but I just picked up 2 Q-See units and the firmware is as follows: 2.100.QS00.9.R, build : 2012-12-07

          I’m wondering if this is the latest myself…I assume that date should be read as Dec 7, 2012.

  12. October 11, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    When I first saw this title » Dahua IPC-HFW2100 1.3MP Mini Bullet Review Network Camera Critic on google I just whent and bookmark it.Hello are using WordPress for your site platform? I’m new to the blog world but I’m trying to get started and set up my own. Do you need any html coding expertise to make your own blog? Any help would be really appreciated!

  13. 28 Mike
    October 12, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Thanks for the review.
    There is also currently a MAJOR flaw in this cameras, not mentioned here, but pointed out in the post here:
    http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32683

    Hopefully a firmware update will fix this.

  14. 29 Steve
    October 15, 2012 at 2:40 am

    Hi,

    I’m currently trying to figure out a reliable system of 4 cameras that only have a FTP server on the local network to record to, no other PC running software for motion tracking or recording the streams etc.

    If I had 4 of these cameras would they be capable of reliably saving straight to the one FTP server.

    The reason I’m unsure is because I would have thought that to save to FTP you would need a “finished” video file on the camera and then the camera would upload to the FTP server.
    However these cameras don’t have expandable memory and so they would need to be streaming the video to the ftp server. I wasn’t aware you could stream a video to a FTP server for saving, I thought it only possible to upload completed files (I’m no expert on this though).

    If this kind of setup would work my idea was then to simply bring a laptop running windows and the software that comes with the cameras to the location to access the saved videos when needed.

    I’m new to this so any ideas or suggestions would be very helpful.

    • 30 networkcameracritic
      October 15, 2012 at 10:09 am

      You can get 4 of these cameras, with a 1TB hard drive and their NVR to handle the recordings from Costco.com for $699 which is dirt cheap it’s from a dependable U.S. company with a U.S. warranty. Here’s the link – http://www.costco.com/Q-See-4-Channel-HD-Digital-NVR-with-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-4-HD-720p-IP-Cameras.product.100003211.html

      I think sold out now but they have the cameras alone to for cheap, I bought 2 for $299.

      The cameras can FTP to an FTP server but why? You can access the NVR remotely from a web browser, from their PSS app and from their iPhone/Android iDMSS app.

      • 31 Steve
        October 15, 2012 at 3:43 pm

        Thanks for the quick reply, that’s a great deal although I live in Australia and I just checked and they won’t ship here :(

        I was hoping to initially just use an old pc with FTP server as somewhere to save the videos from the 4 cameras, cost is an issue. I found 4 of these cameras for $535 shipped. Was hoping to just connect the 4 to older computer and be done until my friend wants to spend more on things like NVR’s or decent PC capable of running NVR software.

        However that Costco system seems a bargain and if I could find a system like that shipped to Australia for same price it would be ideal.

        • 32 networkcameracritic
          October 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm

          Don’t know what electric rates are there, but for me, running something like a 1TB WD My Book Live NAS that runs about $150 in the U.S. is very engergy effecient, small, quiet and I have my Dahua camera writing to that and works well. Old PC’s that can’t go into energy saving mode as the FTP would be running all day can be pricy to run 24/7. Linovision in China carries all the Dahua models using their brand name but their prices are good and also has NVR+ software which is pretty CPU efficient works well with Dahua cameras and is pretty cheap. If you get NVR+, get the version with the USB license key stick, otherwise a license is specific to a camera, so if a camera breaks, you have to buy a new license for the replacement. Also, BlueIris, $50 per server works well with Dahua cameras, good support, but may need a more powerfull machine than just an older computer but it will work with as many cameras as you want on a PC, same price.

      • 33 Tom
        October 17, 2012 at 8:57 am

        First of all, thanks a lot for sharing all this information about IP camera systems. I am new to this and have learned a lot from your blog.

        I have the Dahua branded version of this camera on order. I didnt know about the Q-see version of this camera till now. Is it possible to mix and match the Dahua branded cam with the Q-see branded ones? – 3 Q-See and 1 Dahua branded cam with the Q-see NVR?

        • 34 networkcameracritic
          October 17, 2012 at 9:45 am

          Dahua sells cameras to companies throughout the world that re-brand the camera as theirs. So Q-See, EyeSurv, Linovision and more are all Dahua cameras.

      • 35 Patrick
        November 1, 2012 at 8:14 am

        I bought 2 of the Q-See cameras (Model QCN7001B) from Costco as well. So far they seem decent, but I haven’t actually mounted them yet. I’m wondering – can I change the lens to a 3.6 mm for a better field of view? And if so, can someone point me to a reputable vendor that provides a good quality lens?

        • 36 networkcameracritic
          November 1, 2012 at 10:01 am

          In theory yes. I ordered a 3.6mm lens ($2.10 shipped) from DX and waiting to get it and I’ll let you know.

          • 37 Lawman
            November 7, 2012 at 9:29 pm

            I was wondering if you can cut off the ir on the QSEE branded version? I don’t see any way to do it from the NVR. Also, what website did you order the 3.6 mm lens from? Thank you for your reviews, they have been a huge help.

          • 38 Joem
            November 30, 2012 at 4:19 pm

            Lawman,

            I suspect that he ordered from dx.com. They sbow 2 3.6mm lenses for 2.10 and 2.70. _Slightly_ different sizes, I am also ordering that 2.10 version on a bet.

            NetworkCameraCritic,

            Thanks for you info here. I chatted with QSEE and they do not offer anything other than the 6mm lens for this camera. (Fast access to chat!).

            Joe M

  15. 39 Mark
    October 21, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Howdy guys. I’m really interested in this camera to replace a PELCO ICS-300 bullet camera that I have. My question is the mount. Where I wish to mount this is under the eve of our roof but it then needs to be pointed perpendicular (90 degrees) to the underside surface of the eve. So the mount will be mounded to a Quad plate on the eve and then the camera needs to be bent/twisted 90 degrees to so that the lens is parallel to the ground and looking down the driveway. The double jointed Pelco ICS-300 is just barely able to do this. Do you think this camera’s mounting system will allow it to be swiveled 90 degrees?
    Or maybe a better way to explain it. If you were to mount this flat on a vertical wall, could you then swivel the camera so it would look straight down? Or straight up. Again, can the camera be position 90 degrees to mounting surface.
    Thanks again!

  16. 41 Craig
    October 21, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Is it possible to turn the IR illuminators off at night? The reason I ask is that I was told that these IR illuminators attract bugs at night which will cause the motion detection to be triggered every time an insect moves in front of the screen. I’d like to record only motion events and I want to avoid recording every time a bug goes by. Also, I noticed that Linovision has a really good price on this camera. Has anyone here ever ordered from Linovision and is he a reputable dealer and can firmware updates be obtained from him?

    Thanks for the help!!

    • 42 networkcameracritic
      October 21, 2012 at 8:22 pm

      Linovision is a legit source for Dahua cameras. You can put the camera in day mode instead of auto then the IR illuminators won’t come on but you won’t get a picture at night either. If you are worried about bugs, put a few drops of citronella oil and a few drops of lemon juice in a spray bottle filled with water and spray the area. This will repel bugs from the camera. But realistically, bugs are the least of your problems. Any shadows, breezes blowing leaves on trees and bushes, headlights, birds will cause false motion detects all night long. You can minimize false alerts by using an external PIR motion detect on cameras with alarm inputs, but this camera does not have that capability.

  17. 43 Roger
    November 7, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Does anybody know what brands this might be under on amazon.com? I saw Empire on there, but they aren’t responding to a question I had about which lens shipped with the product.

    • 44 networkcameracritic
      November 7, 2012 at 11:58 am

      It’s sad to say but Dahua does not let the the Dahua name be used in the U.S. and does not want it’s cameras sold on eBay or Amazon. The cameras are sold under many names but are all the same. I would recomend you check with Sean at EyeSurv.com or Pritesh at Ad-HocSecurity.com, both in the U.S. and good to work with. Alternatively, you can get them from Linovision.com in China which has a more complete selection of Dahua cameras that are not available in the U.S. Also Q-See is a popular brand for Dahua cameras in the U.S. and starting to trickle into Costco.com in the U.S.

      • 45 Bobby
        December 24, 2012 at 8:40 am

        NCC,

        Thanks for this product’s videos & photos, as well as all of the other reviews on your site. Based on this thread’s discussion, I contacted one of the people you listed and purchased four of these cameras as well as the NVR. After recently installing them, I cannot express how pleased I am with the quality and functionality for the price.

        As a network engineer by trade, I can be a bit “discerning” when it comes to electronics and their resulting functionality. I did not warn Pritesh in advance (as I usually will), but he was more than accommodating with the range and frequency of my questions….even outside of normal business hours.

        BLUF: If using a DSL connection and a modem/router combo, turn the router functionality off (Transparent) and place a separate router behind the modem.

        I have not been able to nail down if it was on my ISP or the equipment, and wasn’t helped by the fact that when I contacted them I was informed that they do not “support the “advanced” functionality, only basic setup”. When installing over my DSL connection, I ultimately had to set the Modem/Router to transparent mode and put a separate router in the equation to get the remote access to function. This setup generally reinforces a Best Business Practice notion to let routers route, switches switch, etc….just not necessarily the most optimal cost solution for average consumers.

        Unfortunately, most of the average consumer devices do not offer the depth of logging that I am used to while troubleshooting network connectivity problems, and cannot specify exactly what the problem was.

  18. 46 aparvata
    November 9, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Hi,
    First up, I am extremely glad that I discovered this blog. I have been trolling through the websites for a couple of days in vain for an objective advice for my needs.
    Here is a quick summary.
    I am new to network cameras and am looking for a network camera as a perimeter security device to give me that precious extra seconds to react on a break-in or invasion. I am more interested in deterrent/security of my family. To that end, I wanted to install a network camera at my front door (and patio if I succeed with first one).
    I am looking for a wireless (Do not want the hassle of dealing with fishing wires etc.), decent quality camera. The most important feature to me is the PUSH alert to my iphone with streaming video and with the LEAST LATENCY possible so I can call 911.

    I looked at the Foscam bullet and now the Dahua, thanks to you. And I am thoroughly confused as well regarding the way push notifications are done.

    So, what would you recommend for under $ 300. Secondly, is it true that the push notifications happen via the internet and thus wasting time instead of using my home network when I am in the house.

    I also have the GE Simon security system in the house with Liewatch monitoring and is there anyway I can get that to integrate?

    Sorry, if I asked too many ignorant questions. It’d be a great help!!

    Thanks

  19. 47 Chris HJ
    November 12, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    Recently bought one of these cameras. Looks & feels solidly built.
    My intended use is only through the camera web interface, over the internet, to view when I want.

    Two point to note:
    Firstly the web interface only works with Internet Explorer – the camera on first connection to a PC wants to download some ActiveX software (webrec.cab). This is not a problem of itself – the instructions tell you how to go about it. but, if you are not using IE, then no ActiveX, so no pictures. Firefox, Chrome etc just will not work to give any video, so be aware of this. Interestingly the admin screens load & you can setup the camera, just nothing to view.

    Second point is IE 10 in windows 8 does not work either. The ActiveX component (webrec.cab) downloads, but all that happens in the picture part of the viewing PC screen turns white. Apparantly this is being worked on.

    Anyone tried going back to IE 9 on Win 8?

  20. 48 Tom
    November 12, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    I dont know about that…I have 2 QSee branded and 2 Dahua branded ones. One of the Dahuas is a dome version of the mini bullet. I can access and view via the cam webserver on Chrome(latest), Firefox(latest)and IE8 but on different computers and while on my LAN. There are a few extra controls that are visible when you have ActiveX running, either through native IE or using IE tabs for FF or Chrome. I tried Firefox and IE on the Internet and it didnt work (even with the same computers that worked while on my LAN). I know my dyndns and port forwarding is working because I can log in, just no picture. Best results on internet seem to from using the Android app – but then you are limited to the sub-stream.

    • 49 Chris HJ
      November 13, 2012 at 9:42 am

      I have not yet tried over the net, only within my LAN, just hope i can get the pictures, but reading your reply does not hold up huge hope.
      I agree you can use FF (I know nothing about chrome) with IE tab plug in installed, and that works OK, but it is still IE & you still have to install the activex control.
      what I wanted to do was run it natively in firefox, because the web camera software does not work on windows 8 (yet!)
      After further work I now have it running on Firefox, in Windows 8, but still within my LAN.
      There is a new version of Quicktime, which has a plug-in for firefox. The quality seems about the same, but there is a several second delay between event & picture. Still much better than white screen!

  21. 50 Paul
    December 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    Hi, I saw that you ordered 3 mm lens from dx.com for $2.10 each, so I ordered some as well. They arrived a few days ago, so I’m guessing yours have arrived also. Are you going to post a How-To showing the installation process? Thanks!

  22. December 4, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    Thanks for the review! It’s hard to find good camera information. I’m going to order some of these.

    But I’m confused by Dahua’s power specs: “DC12V, PoE(802.3af)”. 802.3af supplies 48V (after negotiation). So this seems contradictory. What do they mean by 12V? Are they saying it accepts either 12V (maybe on that round connector I see in your picture) or standard 802.3af (over the RJ45 connector of course)? Or if that round connector isn’t power, what is it?

    I talked with Empire Security Cameras, who said that injectors will not work. I imagine they’re thinking of the non-standard “passive PoE” injectors I see on Amazon. They said you must use a managed PoE switch and suggested the Netgear ProSafe line. Those use 802.3af, so I imagine any switch or injector that speaks 802.3af would work. Sound right?

    • 53 networkcameracritic
      December 4, 2012 at 1:39 pm

      You can use either PoE from a switch or injector (48V) or use a 12V power supply (rarely done). A managed switch is expensive, no need for that, maybe $300 for 8 ports where the same PoE switch that’s unmanaged is maybe $100. Managed means you can configure the switch and do cool things like turn power off/on for a camera.

  23. 54 Tom
    December 4, 2012 at 1:42 pm

    Yes it means it takes a 12V connection to the round connector OR PoE to the RJ45. I have mine hooked up to an unmanaged Netgear 4+4 PoE switch and it works fine.

  24. 55 Paul
    December 4, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    I got this Netgear unit for around $175:

    • 56 networkcameracritic
      December 4, 2012 at 3:24 pm

      For what it’s worth, Trendnet and ZyXel both make inexpensive PoE switch with 8 ports (4 port PoE) for about $60-70. I prefer ZyXel because all ports are full power where Trendnet has a 30W max for 4 ports.

      • 57 Paul
        December 4, 2012 at 3:46 pm

        That’s a good price for a PoE switch… The link didn’t show up in my last message, but it was a Netgear GS110TP, an 8 port managed switch with 2 SPF slots (in case you need fiber). Whether you need a managed switch depends on how fancy you plan to get with your network. Another neat trick you can do with managed switches is to run VLANs. Most people could get by with unmanaged, but I’m a network admin professionally, managing over 700 routers and around 3000 switches, so I’m a bit of a control freak when it comes to my network gear. :)

  25. 60 Mosez
    December 7, 2012 at 10:00 am

    I have the Q-See QCN7001B incarnation of this camera. Two things:

    1) I’m powering this camera through a TRENDnet Gigabit PoE Injector (TPE-113GI). Works perfectly, so whomever is claiming at Empire Security Cameras that injectors don’t work may have ulterior motives.

    2) I setup the camera to upload it’s video and snapshot files to my Ubuntu ftp server. That seems to work. What doesn’t seem to work, is the ‘Alarm’ tab of the camera’s built-in web server. I presume that I should be able to see a log here of alarms and either download or replay the associated video and snapshots, should I not? Whatever the purpose of this tab is, it never fully loads and I don’t see any alarm records. Anyone seen this working? If so, what is your configuration (Windows/Mac, version, browser type and version)?

    Thanks in advance for your concern.

    • 61 networkcameracritic
      December 7, 2012 at 10:57 am

      Could be I’m misunderstanding your questions, but alarms are triggered by the alarm inputs, and the HFW2100 does not have alarm inputs. In contrast, the HFW3200C does have them. An alarm input is an external trigger, commonly an externa PIR motion detector connected to ports on the camera.

      • 62 Mosez
        December 7, 2012 at 1:05 pm

        Ah, well that would certainly explain why this tab is not working – thanks!

        I installed the Q-See PSS but have trouble getting it to recognize and login to my camera, let alone playback the video and snapshot files on my ftp server (to which I have explorer-like access through SMB-CIFS).

        What would you recommend I use for playback of the video and snapshot files?

        • 63 networkcameracritic
          December 7, 2012 at 1:19 pm

          Dahua’s PSS is not something I was able to master. I was able to get the cameras to display and that was it. I personally go to my NAS and dig through the file structure to find a point in time and play the video using Windows. This is temporary until I setup my BlueIris server. If that doesn’t work, I’ll use NVR+ from Linovision as I know that works well with Dahua.

        • 64 Mosez
          December 7, 2012 at 3:42 pm

          Guess it was a tad naive of me to think that the web server in the camera would be able to retrieve and playback (stream) video files, all the while maintaining it’s motion detection and live video streaming.

          The problem with the Q-See camera is that is uploads the proprietary DAV format, which cannot be easily played back by common media players. I bought the camera with the intend of having it watch my porch 24×7, and have it alerted me when the mail man or UPS guy delivers a package. Then I want to be able to quickly retrieve either some images or a video of the event. That’s it.

          I have a Ubuntu server in my basement that doubles (triples) as NAS, music server (Subsonic) and backup server (CrashPlan). It now also runs the ftp server, to which the Q-see camera uploads its files.

          If I have to install software like Blue Iris or ZoneMinder – which I am not necessarily against – to meet my requirements, then what’s the point of investing in a (relatively) expensive IP camera? I regular CCTV camera with simple video-in card would do just fine, wouldn’t it? Not trying to be difficult, just understand.

          • 65 networkcameracritic
            December 7, 2012 at 4:18 pm

            First understand that outdoors, any change in video will trigger motion detection like shadows from a breeze blowing against a tree or headlights. There’s two ways to have reliable motion detection, 1) have an external PIR motion detector (not able to do that with the model), 2) run analytics software like VitaminD where it can distinguish a human form from other objects (requires a lot of processing power as one could imagine). I use video motion detection to record way more than I need to, but I’m not triggering alerts based on the motion. Originally I did, but as you figured out, not very fruitful to get several false alerts for each good one.

            Having Ubuntu on a real PC running a Samba or FTP deamon server process is way more powerful than the small NAS I use, so I’m sure you can put a bunch of cameras on it without a problem.

            Lastly, on the DVD that came with the camera, there’s a player app, aptly called Player. When installed and you double click on the “DAV” file, it will play on this player and it has the option to export the video to AVI should you need to share it with anyone. Clearly, looking at your Ubuntu file system, there’s no easy way to find anything. At best you can go to the folder for a day, and look at 24 folders for a day, pick the hour you want and look at the videos for that hour. The you have the joy of pruning out old days on a regular basis. Very tedious, at least for me it is. What good NVR software will let you do is view a timeline, click on a point in time and press play in fast motion, like 8x and have it go through a bunch of recorded video files fairly quick. Sure, I’m having two cameras write to a NAS but it’s only temporary.

            The PSS software allows you to view a bunch of cameras at the same time on one screen, handy for checking to see what’s going on around the property, for example if you hear a noise but you don’t know where it’s coming from. It’s supposed to allow you to look at recordings on SD card (not your model) or NAS, but not sure how to set that up but others have done it, so it’s possible. Also try their DSS software, maybe that’s better.

          • 66 Mosez
            December 9, 2012 at 6:30 pm

            Those are excellent considerations, thanks. Installed and currently playing with ZoneMinder. I’m getting a stream, but it’s updated only every ~5 seconds or so. Blue Iris (on Windows) sure looks good…

    • March 27, 2013 at 10:22 pm

      Mosez, do you use the TPE-113GI injector with a 48V power supply or 12V power supply? Thanks.

  26. 69 Tul9033
    December 12, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Any updates on the lens swap out?

    • 70 networkcameracritic
      December 12, 2012 at 10:48 am

      I have it sitting on my desk and haven’t a chance to try it yet. What others have said is the lens is soft around the edges compared to the factory lens. There’s a better lens from this company – http://www.m12lenses.com/3-6mm-F2-1-Board-Lens-p/pt-3621.htm that looks better than the lens from DX and only costs $3.25.

      • 71 Tul9033
        January 11, 2013 at 2:08 pm

        The 3.6mm lens from M12 was a bust. It has good color and clarity however, it takes the field of view outside the black ring on the glass cover. In daytime you can see some black edges and it night mode it looks like you are looking through a tunnel/tube.
        Need another alternative, any suggestions?

      • 72 Tul9033
        January 11, 2013 at 5:25 pm

        The M12 3.6mm lens was a no go. The viewing angle appears to be slightly too wide. In daytime you can see the edges of the black ring on the glass and in night it looks like you are looking through a tunnel/tube.
        Any other suggestions? The 6.0mm lens that came on the QCN7001B from Costco said Mega 6.0 on the outer ring.

        • 73 Mosez
          January 12, 2013 at 7:53 pm

          I got the megapixel version from M12 ($ 14.70 currently out of stock). Easy swap, crystal clear with great color and no vignetting.

          • 74 Tul9033
            January 13, 2013 at 7:40 pm

            What exactly are the differences in F1.8, F2.0, and F2.1? The Mega Pixel is a F1.8 It’s my understanding that it’s the size of the hole in the lens from front to back. Which if correct my theory is that the F2.1 is big enough to see the edges of the black ring on the glass, while the 1.8 or 2.0 is just small enough to keep the ring out of view.

          • 75 networkcameracritic
            January 13, 2013 at 8:15 pm

            That’s the maximum apeture, the lower the number, the better it works in lower light but the shallower the depth of field.

          • 76 Mosez
            January 13, 2013 at 8:20 pm

            Exactly. More specifically, the F-number is “the ratio of the lens’s focal length to the diameter of the entrance pupil”.

            More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number

  27. 77 Byron W
    December 13, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    I have done some research on this camera. I was wondering if anyone can verify if the camera 2 pack from Costco (link: http://www.costco.com/.product.689950.html#BVRRWidgetID ) is the same camera we are talking about here?

    • 78 networkcameracritic
      December 14, 2012 at 10:01 am

      Yes, Costco sells the Q-See QCN7001B which is the same as the IPC-HFW2100.

      • 79 Jamie
        February 11, 2013 at 5:16 am

        Same camera yes, BUT those have the 6mm lens and that’s important to point out. I’m also considering the package from Costco, but I’ll need to swap out a few lenses as the 6mm lens won’t work for me in all areas. I’m currently researching the comments here for success stories with the 3.6mm lens.

  28. 80 jmayes
    December 19, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    Noob question… I’m going to be surface mounting these and running the cable on the outside of my house (along the siding). Having never installed a camera before, I’m not quite sure how to approach this. Is there a good box people are using to house the pigtail. Should I mount the camera on the box cover or next to the box? Any advice or DIY tutorials would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

    • 81 networkcameracritic
      December 19, 2012 at 3:42 pm

      During my testing, I used an outdoor surface mount round white plastic electrical box and cover plate I got at Home Depot. It held the pigtail. It had two tabs that I used to screw it to the eave in my case.

      • 82 jmayes
        December 19, 2012 at 3:58 pm

        First, I want to say thanks for putting this blog together. Very helpful.

        As for the the plastic box/cover plate, did you mount the camera onto the cover plate directly or next to the box? Did you take any pics of your setup?

      • 83 networkcameracritic
        December 19, 2012 at 4:10 pm

        Didn’t take pictures, that would have been the sensible thing to do. I screwed the camera to the lid and then screwed the lid to the box which is barely larger than the box. It looked good because it was white, like the camera, so it looked like it was meant to be.

  29. 84 Joem
    January 12, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Can you tell if the ring you are seeing is the front of the camera housing or the plastic mount that came with the lens? If it is the housing, you will never see what is hidden in the corners behind the vignetting. If you need a corner to corner view you only choice is to get a longer lens with a narrower angle of view. The smaller field will not show corner vignetting, but you will not see as much at the non-corner edges. Your choice.

    If the problem is due to the plastic mount, you might fare better with a different lens manufacturer. I doubt that this is the issue unless the sensor in these cameras has greater area than the norm. In that case you would need to find a 3.6mm lens with a wider angle of coverage. You would probably also the same problem with the different length lens from this same manufacturer. If you are familiar with photography, you can think of this as the problem you have using a DX lens on a FX camera.

    Please keep us posted on your progress. I will be trying this in the future. I could try it myself, but I am still waiting for the lens I bought Dec 1. I remember that they had a slightly more expensive 3.6mm lens with no apparent difference in specs.

    • 85 Tul9033
      January 13, 2013 at 7:55 am

      I’m pretty sure the ring is the camera housing. While adjusting the focus with the camera housing off the dark corners were not visable. What is odd is that when the lights go out the ring beceomes much more aparent but looks like a tube with somewhat clear sides. You can still make out what is outside the ring but it is “foggy”. Might be IR bouncing back. I’ll take the front housing off Monday and test in the dark and see what it looks like.
      I’ve seen these Q-See cameras sold with a 3.6mm lens so I assumed they were coming with a 3.6 lens option from the factory (I know the Dahua does). However, they might be being added by resellers or they are just getting the specs wrong. I’m tempted to try a few larger FL lense like a 4.0mm but it only comes in a F2.0. I really don’t know how or if the F stop could cause this, the lense I have now is a F2.1. I believe the F refers to how big the hole is, maybe that slightly larger hole is letting the endge of the housing into view. Totally a laymans guess.
      The bottom line is I want a wider field of view than the 6mm is giving me.
      Thanks!

      • 86 networkcameracritic
        January 13, 2013 at 7:27 pm

        Sometimes the brim across the top reflects back. Some people have colored it in with a black sharpy, the white edges and it makes a big difference.

      • 89 Joem
        January 13, 2013 at 11:50 pm

        Mosez reports that the mega pixel version had no vignetting. I don’t see how the vignetting can be coming from the camera housing then. You miight be able to test by putting a corner of a card on the housing just in the field of view. If the corner is about as much out of focus as the vignette ring, then the card is about as far from the lens as the vignette cause. If the card is substantially sharper, it is further from the lens than the vignette cause.

        Both 3.6mm lens show 85 degrees of coverage and the ability to cover a 1/3 sensor. Maybe the specs are a little iffy.

        The f stop of the lens should not influence the angle of coverage. Some cheaper lenses can have slight vignetting at maximum aperture, but not what you are describing (this is in the 35mm camera world).

        A larger aperature (f/2 versus f/2.1) will provide more light to the sensor and a shallower depth of field. f/2 passes twice the light of f/2.8. It would be tough to see the difference between f/2 and f/2.1.

        • 90 Tul9033
          January 14, 2013 at 9:07 am

          Here are the pictures:

          • 91 networkcameracritic
            January 14, 2013 at 9:19 am

            Ahh, you have IR light bleed, that’s different. That’s because the rubber gasket that seperates the lens from the IR filter is not touching the glass. Be careful in setting that gasket up. If there’s a gap that can’t be finessed around, cut a donut out of foam to fit in between the lens and the .

          • 92 Joem
            January 14, 2013 at 11:15 am

            I know nothiing about IR light bleed and its effects. The separate phenomenum helps reconcile why you and Mosez are seeing different results.

          • 93 Tul9033
            January 14, 2013 at 11:34 am

            I’m not seeing how this is IR bleed. I’ve had these cameras apart several times now and tube that encapsulates the lens is all encompassing and extends to the outside of the front glass. The IR emitters are totally separated from the lens. I am experimenting with the camera right now. If I extend the lens by twisting it out the dark corners will go away and eventually the ring ghosting goes away too. Of course it’s way out of focus by then but, it appears that by getting the lens closer to the glass the problems is eliminated. You can’t make out much detail at that point.
            I’m suspicious of the M12 3.6mm lens at this point. Not necessarily that it’s defective, but that the FOV ratios just aren’t compatible with this camera.

          • 94 networkcameracritic
            January 14, 2013 at 11:40 am

            You just proved my point. The camera has a ring of LEDs with a lens in the middle. If you don’t isolate the two, you will see the reflection of the LEDs on the glass surface of the camera. Why is that hard to understand? So you have 3 options, 1) put it in day mode, that will turn off the IR LEDS, 2) remove the glass in the front of the camera, 3) do what I said originally, make a foam donut and mount it between the lens and the glass to seperate the lens from the LEDS.

          • 95 Tul9033
            January 14, 2013 at 11:49 am

            Our wires are crossed somehow. Do you have the camera? If so take a look at it. I 100% understand and tried to convey that the lense and the LED’s are totally separated, I’ll leave it at that without explanation; they are separated. This problem does not exist with the 6.0mm lens.

          • 96 networkcameracritic
            January 14, 2013 at 12:03 pm

            Sure it does, just screw in the 6.0mm lens below the glass level and you’ll have the same problem. The lenses are not the same size, so when you screw in lens below the glass level, this will occur. And yes, right in front of me, I have a 3.6mm version and the 6mm version.

          • 98 networkcameracritic
            January 14, 2013 at 12:59 pm

            I have a 6mm Q-See camera but can’t remove the screws to the back. I got one out, the other 2 are now stripped. I did take apart a camera with the 3.6mm lens, but that doesn’t help as it’s different (has diferrent number of IR LEDs and possibly different spacing on the lens). I see your pictures, there’s a place the lens fits into but with the shorter lens, it’s not going all the way in and the IR lights are reflecting off the glass. If you can figure out how to better isolate the two, you will get rid of your issue. As for the minor vignetting, that isn’t too bad, I would image you would be mostly concerned about the IR LED issue.

          • 99 Tul9033
            January 14, 2013 at 1:40 pm

            I had some issues getting the hex bolts out, it’s definitely metric. A 5/64th is slightly too small and will strip the head if they are in tight. I used a ultra small 2.0mm flathead to get them out since I don’t have a metric allen set here at work.

            The difference in height between the stock Mega 6.0mm and the M12 3.6 is about plus 2.0mm to the Mega. The aperature is also about twice as big on the Mega. Pictures below:

            Stock 6.0 Mega on top and M12 on bottom
            http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/tul9033/photo3_zps6f7a928f.jpg

            Stock Mega 6.0mm installed
            http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/tul9033/photo4_zps65124ae7.jpg

            M12 3.6mm installed
            http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/tul9033/photo5_zps357f8b43.jpg

            I experimented with making a skirt with black tape on the bottom of the lens but it didn’t make a big difference.
            I’m waiting for Mosez to post his shots, I found the Mega Pixel F1.8 3.6mm in China 2x for $14.

          • 100 networkcameracritic
            January 14, 2013 at 1:46 pm

            I’m thinking the head of the lens may be smaller and not sealing. Maybe wrapping tape around the head of the lens to provide a snugger fit may help. Also wrapping it so it extends a little past the edge of the lens may help.

          • 101 Joem
            July 14, 2013 at 4:36 pm

            I had a similar bleed problem when I substituted at 4.2mm lens. I made a small donut from a foam blank (insulation for exterior switch/recepticle box and it went away.

            On a related note, does anyone know of a good source for the ribbon cable used in this camera? (30-pin, 0.5mm pitch, 15mm wide, 80 mm long contacts on opposite sides, labelled as HUNG AWM2898 E97252-H VW-1 80C 30V) I managed to break a lead.

            Thanks

        • 102 Mosez
          January 14, 2013 at 11:58 am

          I’ll post day and night picutes for reference tonight.

          FWIW: I recall the camera actually has a (foam) ring that shields the lens from IR light bleed/bounce as is shown on Tul9033′s pictures.

          I noticed that Tul’s ‘daylight’ picture shows indeed some vignetting. My guess is that Tul’s 3.6mm lens is too short. My 3.6 MEGA lens fits perfectly as you’ll be able to see. It has an actual glass lens and metal housing. Feels rather substantial too.

  30. 106 Tul9033
    January 14, 2013 at 9:11 am

    In case the html doesn’t work here are the links:

    http://s73.beta.photobucket.com/user/tul9033/media/ch01_20130113_135712_E_zpsab250bfb.jpg.html

    http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i204/tul9033/ch01_20130113_132252_E_zps5721571c.jpg

    I sent the pictures to M12, they said they might have suggestions after seeing the pictures.

  31. 107 ukie
    January 18, 2013 at 9:11 pm

    Thank you for the great review.
    I just got this camera and was wondering if it is possible to get an http or html stream from the camera? This is the only way I can connect it to SecuritySpy on my Mac.

    • 108 networkcameracritic
      January 19, 2013 at 12:32 pm

      Sure, access the camera via it’s RTSP port. I’ve done this with VLC Player with Dahua cameras and it works great. By default, if you haven’t changed the rtsp port number, is 554.

      • 109 crippo2
        January 20, 2013 at 11:37 am

        I have remote viewing on my android tablet, using either RTSP (port 554) or TCP (port 37777) but would like to be able to view over the internet in Windows. My uplink is too slow to watch using the camera web interface – although I can get to the main web signon screen, just no pics.
        so your post about using VLC might suggest a way I can do this. however I try to connect using VLC it fails to get anywhere, and the log shows nothing useful.
        can you please give me a ‘howto’ on this – I expect others would be interested also!
        thanks – Chris HJ

        • 110 networkcameracritic
          January 21, 2013 at 8:44 am

          Select Media on the toolbar, then Open Network Stream and enter an URL for the RTSP stream for Dahua – rtsp://0.0.0.0:554/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0. Of course change the 0.0.0.0 to your IP address. Also make sure that port is open on router if you intend to view it remotely. To view a Dahua camera remotely, you need to have 3 ports open, by default, 80, 554 and 37777.

          • 111 crippo2
            January 21, 2013 at 9:30 am

            Thanks – can now connect on the PC. Very useful help indeed!
            Can you tell me where I can find the information about this string?
            For example what is channel 1? is it the main stream or the substream or something? & what is ‘subtype’ Rather than taking bandwidth through this forum, a pointer to an info sheet either generic or for the Dahua camera would be very helpful
            thanks again
            Chris HJ

          • 112 networkcameracritic
            January 21, 2013 at 9:58 am

            Subtype is where you specify which stream you want, 0 for the main stream and 1 for the substream, found out trial and error, not much in the way of documentation. Also just found out you can get still images from the camera using this URL – http://ip-address:9988/onvif/media_service/snapshot

    • 113 ukie
      January 24, 2013 at 10:32 pm

      The snapshot link is really helpful. Thanks.
      For some reason I can only access the camera locally.
      After setting up all the port forwarding, I still cannot access the RTSP stream using my dyndns domain.
      Also, did anyone get the Multicast working? I can’t access it from VLC.

  32. 114 Byron W
    January 20, 2013 at 7:32 pm

    Has anyone tried to connect the Q-See camera in “iSpy” or “IP Camera Viewer-Andriod app”? I have made several attempts with no luck. I have Foscom and various other brands configured under those two applications and they are configured and accessible. I also noticed that this camera is not listed under their selection of cameras.

    Has anyone compared the firmware and software in the camera from Costco and the one directly from Dahua. I am assuming they are both the same and Q-See only places their name in the firmware or software. The reason for this question is, can I choose the Dahua instead of the Q-See under the selection of cameras?

    • 115 networkcameracritic
      January 21, 2013 at 8:46 am

      The Q-See is a Dahua made camera, no reason it should not work. Make sure you specify port 85 as that is the cameras default port compared to most Dahua cameras that use port 80.

  33. 116 Crippo2
    January 21, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    Reference streaming using VLC – & thank you for the help – I have found that if you add your username & password before the external Ip address, the camera will read and accept it. I have also changed to the substream, which works better for me.
    So the string becomes: rtsp://username:password@0.0.0.0:554/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=1

    regards & thanks

    Chris HJ

  34. 117 Marty
    January 22, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    I just purchased this camera from Empire. I got the 3.6mm version. I have seen several post of folks trying to find a 3rd party 3.6mm lens, but I’m having the opposite issue. I have the 3.6mm and want to go to 6mm. Has anyone tried that? Can someone recommend a good lens to try?

    Great blog btw. I based my purchase largely from what I read here. You are right about the white balance being a little out of whack, but I just didn’t want to spend an extra $200 for a better picture for what I’m using the camera for.

    • 118 networkcameracritic
      January 22, 2013 at 8:59 pm

      My Costco version came with 6mm, but I actually use them that way and like it. I’m sure someone here would be happy to trade with you, or check with the Costco camera post on cctvforum.com in the IP camera section. Also, many have already switched lenses so they still have their 6mm they may give you. At least you know it will fit.

  35. 119 Tul9033
    January 22, 2013 at 9:09 pm

    I’ll trade you the 6.0 for the 3.6. Email me @ my userid at hotmail

  36. 122 Tul9033
    January 23, 2013 at 8:48 am

    Try either the Mega Pixel 6.0mm F1.8 lens (PT-0618MP) or the M12 6.0mm F2.0 (PT-0620). Both available at M12. My first recommendation would be the Mega Pixel but it is out of stock.
    My Q-See came with the Mega.

    • 123 Marty
      January 23, 2013 at 6:31 pm

      I emailed both M12 for a restock date and Empire for suggestions. If I hear anything I’ll let you know. Thanks for the suggestions.

    • 125 Tul9033
      January 28, 2013 at 2:21 pm

      I just replaced my 6mm Mega with a 3.6mm Mega and it’s a winner. The M12 3.6 was much shorter and caused reflection issues. If anyone needs the 6mm let me know.
      The Megs lens is what I would recommend for the Q-See and Dahua.

  37. 127 Marty
    February 2, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    First off, I would like to thank Tul9033 for selling me one of his 6mm lenses for a great price and shipping it so quickly.

    Second here is a comparison of the 2 lenses and can someone tell me what is causing the white halo up top of the night photos with the new lens. It doesn’t do that during the day.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/115034558220753943849/LensComparison?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCJnbxbLE-eSxLQ&feat=directlink

  38. 128 Tul9033
    February 2, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    Do you happen to have any other cameras in the area? I have had some issues with the IR from other cameras causing reflections when in close proximity to other cameras.
    That definitley looks like a halo being picked up from the glass. I would try turning the lens out a bit and see if it goes away, yes it will be out of focus a bit but you will know if it is a problem with the distance from the front glass to the lens. The picture looks good otherwise.

    I’m having my own problem with the 3.6mm Mega lens. I swapped my other 2 cameras from 6.0 to 3.6 and now the 3.6 cameras won’t switch to night mode. The IR lights are on, but I’m not getting a black and white picture, still pitch black. Only thing I did was swap the lenses out.

    • 129 networkcameracritic
      February 3, 2013 at 11:18 am

      That happens to this model, the IR cut filter sticks. Some have used a magnet to fix it, some have sent it back to Q-See and they replaced the camera.

    • 130 Tul9033
      February 3, 2013 at 11:54 am

      Here is a link with shots of the exact problem and discussion of it:
      http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=32694&start=60
      It seems that the 6mm version comes with more IR LED’s than the 3.6mm version.

      My IR issue has me wondering if it is the lenses. I got the 2nd set from a different supplier. Both read Mega 3.6, but only the 2nd set are having the IR cut issue, first set are working fine. I’m reading something about lenses being IR rated.
      Coincidence that the 2nd set are having an issue with IR?

    • 131 Marty
      February 3, 2013 at 12:35 pm

      Is there an easier way of adjusting the lens without taking the whole thing apart again?

      I’m going to take a sharpie and add some more ink to the sun shield and see if that makes a difference.

      • 132 networkcameracritic
        February 3, 2013 at 12:55 pm

        Not on that camera. The front comes off by unscrewing it on the larger bullets, not on their smaller ones. They make a camera to a certain price point and they don’t intend on having creative people like us taking the cameras apart.

        • 133 Marty
          February 15, 2013 at 9:10 pm

          The halo doesn’t bother me too much. It’s really not worth taking the camera apart again. I love the 6mm vs the 3.6mm for animal watching. :)

    • 134 Joem
      February 3, 2013 at 2:10 pm

      I have seen one site with flavors of X.Xmm MEGA lenses (http://www.anykeeper.com/china-wholesale-cctv-lens/megapixel-cctv-lens.html). They say the “A” is a 3 megapixel lens and the “B” is a 1 megapixel lens. I have been unable to find what that difference means. If there is some geometry difference that could account for some IR leakage.

      If anyone knows what the difference is, please post.

  39. 135 Tul9033
    February 3, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    I ordered the “A” and that’s the one I’m having problems with. It took about 2 weeks from China. Now I’m going back to the ones from M12 which work fine.
    I have 2 from M12 and 2 from AnyKeeper and the AK one’s will not fire the IR cut.

    • 136 Tul9033
      February 3, 2013 at 8:15 pm

      I have 2 more brand new cameras and just put the 3.6mm from AnyKeeper in each of those. One will activate the IR cut and the other won’t, go figure.
      The bolts on the back of the camera are 2mm metric hex by the way.
      Guess I’ll order some lenses from M12 tomorrow.

      • 137 Greg
        March 7, 2013 at 2:19 pm

        Tul,

        I’m curious as to how the additional M12 lenses worked out? I just bought (2) Q-see’s from Costco and want to try my hand at the lens swap. Any tips so as not to break it during dis-assembly? Thanks!

        • 138 Oyvind
          March 7, 2013 at 3:11 pm

          I haven’t tried lenses from M12, but I have tried a 3.6 mm from Anykeeper.

          The procedure for swapping the lens is fairly easy, but you need to be a bit careful. Step by step (as I remember it):

          1) Unscrew the three hex bolts that holds the housing together.
          2) Unscrew the three philips screws that holds the lens board to the front part of the housing. Be careful with the cables that connect the lens board to the rear board.
          3) When the lens board is free, disconnect the connector that goes to the IR-board, so that you can set aside the front of the housing.
          4) Unscrew the lock ring that holds the lens, then unscrew the lens.
          5) Fit the lock ring on the new lens, and then screw the new lens to the lens mount, but don’t screw it in too far initially.

          Now you need to focus the new lens, and to do that you must power up the camera. Just hold the lens board (and the rear housing) in your hand and point it at something suitable for focussing, and carefully rotate the lens until you get a sharp image. Focus at something that is a suitable distance away, not something very close. When you are satisfied, tighten the lock ring to prevent the lens from moving, and re-check that the image is still sharp.

          Disconnect the camera, and put everything carefully back together.

        • 139 Tul9033
          March 7, 2013 at 3:55 pm

          The M12 3.6 Mega Pixel lenses worked flawlessly. Use a 2mm metric hex key to get the bolts out and you shouldn’t have any problem with stripping. Once the cover is off use a 3mm precision philips head to remove the lense cover. Be sure to focus the new lense before putting it all back together. I’d recommend keeping the power off the camera until you have the lense replaced then power it up, focus it, and power it off to put it all back together.
          I’ve done it nearly 2 dozen times trying different lenses. Now I have a stack of lenses that I’ve tried or replaced.
          Be sure you have the sensor in the correct orientation before reassembly or you could end up with a sideways image.

          • 140 Greg
            March 8, 2013 at 9:07 am

            Thanks Tul, Oyvind and Mr. Critic! This is what makes the internet so awesome!

            So, I took the risk and ordered some 3.6mm type B lenses from AnyKeeper. Specifically, the MTV-3618B-B units ($4/ea). I was feeling cheap, but also wanted to verify for this community if I have better success with the 1 megapixel version vs. the 3 megapixel units that I believe Tul previously ordered. I’ll follow up once the swap and test is complete!

          • 141 Greg
            June 6, 2013 at 7:23 pm

            So I finally got around to doing the lens swap on these cameras from 6mm to 4mm from AnyKeeper (MTV-3618B-B). I had no problem thanks to the awesome instructions here from Tul and Oyvind.
            My IR cut filter still functions just fine and I have not noticed any IR light bleed issues. The image quality seems comparable but stupidly I did not take any “before” shots. I’m going to do before and after shots for my second camera to see if I’m losing any image quality when swapping to the AnyKeeper lens.
            I focused the camera on an object about 8 feet away from the front of the lens. I feel like this was a dumb move since I will typically be viewing subject matter that is about 20 feet from the camera. Unscrewing those hex screws is a bit of pain to do unnecessarily. How far away was the object that you guys focused in on?

    • 142 Greg
      March 8, 2013 at 9:11 am

      Just so I understand, if you were to swap the problematic cameras back to the stock 6mm lenses, will the IR cut then function normally again?

      • 143 Tul9033
        March 8, 2013 at 11:20 am

        That is correct, going back to the stock 6mm lenses the IR cut worked correctly. Also using the M12 Mega 3.6 lense the IR cut worked fine. The Anykeeper 3.6 lense gave me issues, of the 6 cameras I have the IR cut did not work in 5 of the 6.

      • 144 Tul9033
        June 6, 2013 at 7:53 pm

        Won’t let me reply to your newest post.
        Try the camera in its current configuration and see if you like what you see. Or you could set the next one with the focus at a longer range and then compare the 2.

  40. 145 Joem
    February 4, 2013 at 12:11 am

    @Tul9033, Thanks for the info on the lenses.

  41. 146 ST
    February 5, 2013 at 12:32 pm

    No Costco nearby
    I see Sam’s is also selling q-see
    Any of those units comparable?

  42. 149 ST
    February 5, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    What I thought.
    Thanks

  43. 150 Jamie
    February 10, 2013 at 10:11 am

    First off: fantastic website with great, in-depth reviews. I’ve learned much in the past few days here since being assigned the task of providing and installing a security camera system for one of our remodeling clients.

    I have a few questions in regards to this camera, the Android and iPad/iPhone apps, and the Dahau NVR system.

    Here is what I had planned to do for our client. And before I start, I may be planning this incorrectly. Onward. I plan on installing 3 of these cameras under the eves outside her home and having them FTP motion events to a Synology DiskStation DS212J that has 2, 2TB drives installed. For the time being, I do not plan on using the built in Surveillance Station software. Power for these cameras will either be PoE from a PoE switch or via a power brick as I already have a power cable run to each location along with the ethernet cable.

    I’ve watched the youtube videos that show the iPad/iPhone apps made by Dahau. They look pretty slick. Can the apps connect directly to the cameras or must the app connect to their NVR? I need the ability to view the three cameras at the same time with the apps, but I’m not sure if that is only possible by connecting the app to the NVR, or if it works without the NVR and connecting directly to the cameras. I understand that by not having the NVR, some functionality of the app would be rendered useless – like playback of recorded items.

    I’m torn on the best approach. Is it setup the cameras using the NVR or should I just FTP the motion events to a Synology NAS? Or perhaps using the Surveillance Station software would be a better approach. I do understand that additional licences would have to be purchased to gain full functionality for the three cameras. I also understand that using the Synology software has some drawbacks. Like it is currently impossible to use the cameras motion detection. Currently as I understand it, Synology uses its own motion detection at the expense of CPU usage on the NAS.

    Additionally, our client wants the ability to view the cameras remotely via the internet via the web app or a laptop computer.

    Thanks for your help!

  44. 151 Jamie
    February 11, 2013 at 5:44 am

    I’m wondering if anyone has ever swapped out the Costco 6mm with the 2.8mm version from M12? I don’t know if I’ll need one that wide, but I’m just wondering.

    http://www.m12lenses.com/M12-Mount-Mega-Pixel-Lenses-s/21.htm

    • 152 networkcameracritic
      February 11, 2013 at 8:34 am

      I heard the 2.8mm lens swap doesn’t work because of vignetting which defeats the purpose of going wide if the edges of your images are obscured.

      • 153 Jamie
        February 11, 2013 at 8:40 am

        That makes sense. Thanks for the reply.

        I decided on picking up the Costco package. Can’t really beat the price. I also ordered 4 of the 3.6mm lenses from M12.

        I noticed that the NVR has 1 ethernet port and 4 PoE ports. For my installation I am planning a separate PoE switch and running a single ehternet cable to the NVR. I’m doing this because of where the location the NVR needs to be vs. the location of all of the runs from the cameras. All of the camera runs go into the furnace room of the house. The NVR is going to be located with the other A/V equipment in a cabinet under the flat screen in our clients home. I’m hoping that the NVR will work in this fashion and I don’t have to have the four actual camera runs going directly to the NVR?

  45. 155 tom
    February 11, 2013 at 8:57 am

    I am also debating this. I can put the NVR with the rest of the AV stuff, but in case of a break in/smash and grab situation the thief would probably try to grab the first few valuable items he can see, in my case probably the netbook, tv, and stuff in the AV cabinet – which means more than likely the NVR will be gone as well, even if they don’t realize what it is. I could put the NVR in the locked closet with the rest of my home run and networking gear, but then no way to watch it on a TV/Monitor through HDMI. I dont want to deal with HDMI extenders etc.

    I am leaning towards security over convenience at this point. I should be able to access the NVR webserver on a PC to manipulate it, even though as per the NCC review this interface is less than desirable compared to the native NVR menu? The other option would be to have a smallish flat panel monitor in the closet, but space is at a premium for me so that wouldn’t be optimal either…..

  46. 157 Joem
    February 11, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    Jamie/Tom,

    Thanks for pointing out the HDMI Extender. I had not heard of such a device. You may want to check out the MonoPrice web site before depending on it:

    1) Extender uses 2 Cat5e/Cat6 cables, it does not apparently use Ehternet protocols. STP cables are recommended; UTP will work. You are definitely not using your network for the extension.

    2) Some HDMI connections have been problematic because the devices at each end do not communicate well with each other, The extender can exacerbate this problem. Read the Customer Review tab on the MonoPrice page. Note that their tech support participates.

    Joe M

  47. 158 Tom
    February 11, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    Yes, I am actually familiar with the HDMI over Ethernet but after reading up on it I had decided against it, partly because of the hit or miss experience ppl have had on monoprice, which is why I mentioned that I don’t want to deal with HDMI extenders in my original post. Even if they were reliable, running Ethernet cables is not an option anymore for me. Monoprice also carries some long HDMI cables but again I don’t want to run additional cabling through the walls at this point.

  48. 159 Jamie
    February 15, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    So I got my Q See system today from Costco, and I already have a problem.

    I see myself as a very good computer and network troubleshooter, but for whatever reason, I can’t login to these cameras.

    For starters, I can ping the camera just fine using, so I know it’s on the network. I breifly setup the NVR and the NVR displayed the image from the camera just fine. I wanted to access the setting of each camera just on my network, before going forward so I just hooked it up alone on my PoE switch along with my laptop. As I said, I can ping the ip address just fine. I can’t login to it however with IE or Chrome. Typing in the address just gets and error saying we can’t access the address.

    I’m really stumped with this one. And I’ve tried the other cameras also. Same deal. I can ping, but I can’t login.

    Thanks for some advice.

    • 160 networkcameracritic
      February 15, 2013 at 1:54 pm

      Congrats on your new toy. Don’t use chrome, won’t work, use IE and give the entire URL like http://192.168.1.15:85/

    • 161 Tul9033
      February 15, 2013 at 2:04 pm

      The cameras and NVR are in different IP ranges and have different passwords. I hooked the camera directly to a laptop and set the IP of the laptop to 10.1.1.100 and then used the camera config tool to get the IP of the camera. I believe mine were .65 .64 .63 .62 This is off memory so you may need to verify the camera IP out of the box.
      This is if you want to login to the camera itself and make changes. Camera userid/password default is admin/admin.

  49. 165 Jamie
    February 15, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    Finding it impossible to view camera stream via web browser using IE. Even found some ActiveX instructions online and made the settings match, but still no go. Would you be willing to check your IE ActiveX setting and let me know what you have set?

    Also at the Web Service 3.0 login screen you are given the choice between LAN and WAN. I’m just testing locally at this point, but what’s with difference between the two as far as the Web Service is concerned?

    Thanks once again.

    • 166 Jamie
      February 15, 2013 at 8:02 pm

      Well I ended up finding my own answer to the Internet Explorer and ActiveX problem. For those that may hit the same road block as I did, the solution is detailed in the following YouTube video:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EvqZw0q27U

      And as the video states, the extra step is specifically for those running Windows 7, 64 bit.

      Basically, in order for my ActiveX settings changes to stick, I had to make sure and run IE as Administrator. Mind you that does not mean logging into Windows as an Administrator User, this is right clicking IE and choosing ‘Run as administrator’.

      These things should be this complicated. I really do hate IE and really wished this system worked with Google Chrome. I know someone else here said they were able to get it working in Chrome, but so far I’ve not been so lucky.

      Anyway, I hope this helps someone else…

    • 167 Marty
      February 15, 2013 at 9:07 pm

      Are you using Windows 7? In order to get it to work, I had to turn UAC off.

      Click start, control panel
      Click User Accounts
      Click Change User Account Control Settings
      Drag the slider all the way to the bottom “never notify”

      Reboot, and it should work for you assuming you set up the active x.

      Good Luck, Marty

    • 168 Tom
      February 15, 2013 at 9:25 pm

      I tried all the different active X settings I could find on the web but it never worked for me. Strangely enough Firefox and chrome worked for me, but of course you don’t get the full set of controls. And even then Firefox would work on one laptop but on my desktop it wouldn’t work. Or the Chrome would work on the laptop while on LAN, but not via WAN. Its very inconsistent as to what works. Using PSS works best and most consistently.

      I think if you select WAN during log in, it defaults to the sub-stream to save bandwidth.

    • 169 Jamie
      February 16, 2013 at 6:33 am

      After further research, I’ve once again answered my own question. Here it is for the benefit of others. From the IP Camera Manual .pdf found on the included CD or at the Q-SEE website:

      ‘Accessing the camera will bring up the login
      screen for the program. If you are connecting
      locally, the default video stream will be the
      larger Main Stream. Selecting WAN from the
      choices in the Login window will default to
      the lower-bandwidth Sub Stream. You can
      choose to switch between either stream
      once you have connected using the tabs
      above and to the left of the video display.
      The amount of activity on the network(s) can
      affect the streaming rate from the camera to
      your computer or mobile device.’

      So basically the only difference is if you tick the LAN radio button, the image displayed on the LIVE tab after login is the Main stream, which is larger. If you tick the WAN radio button at login, the image displayed will be the Sub Stream, which is smaller. You can switch to either the Main stream or Sub stream at anytime after logging in regardless of the option selected at the login page.

  50. 170 Tom
    February 15, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    Yeah, port 85 on the Q-See branded cams, but you can change that back to 80 once you login.

  51. 171 Camera Noob
    February 15, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    Thank you very much for the time and effort you put in to your site and reviews. We recently had someone try to break in to our house, and I was getting lost in trying to wade through all the information on the internet. I found your site and you helped us understand and select a camera system to meet our needs very quickly. My wife and I greatly appreciate your efforts.

    We purchased the Costco Q-See IP camera solution you referenced above, along with 3.6mm lenses from M12 to improve the camera monitoring area. We would also like to purchase 1-2 dome cameras as two of our entrances have low overhangs and I’d like a more vandal-proof camera for those areas.

    Would you have any recommendations for a dome camera to go with The Q-See system?

    The Q-See NVR supports Dahua, Arecont Vision, Axis, Canon, Dynacolor, Panasonic, Samsung, Sanyo, Sony and Onvif cameras. I’d like to pay $300-ish or less for a camera. All the packages I see from Q-See include the QCN7002D as an indoor/outdoor camera, but Q-See’s web site says it’s indoor only. Q-See’s QCN8001D seems to fit the bill, and it has IR, but I can’t seem to find which camera this really is and if it is any good. The Dahua ipc-hdb3200c you reviewed looks promising, and would be acceptable since the area is usually lighted, but I’d prefer a camera with IR if possible.

    Thanks for any guidance you can provide! … and thanks again for the amount of time you dedicate to this topic to help others.

  52. 172 Arnaud
    February 17, 2013 at 12:20 pm

    Using it standalone, without DVR, I’m using the “motion detection” option.
    Sensitivity : 1, only a small zone “blue” to detect only close movement. But I’m having sometimes, a huge amount of false detection… I put 1 on sensivity to avoid this kind of case…
    I know that incorporated motion detection is not very good, but for the moment, it’s almost unusable. It’s very strange according to me. In this low sensitivity it shouldn’t trigger so frequently.

    My IPCam is a European one.
    Device Type IPC-HFW2100
    Software Version 2.100.0001.0.R, build : 2012-10-31
    WEB Version 3.0.0.0

    thank you

  53. February 18, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    Of all the cameras you reviewed, do you think there is some other brand/model which can compete with Dahua HFW2100? I mean, at the same price?

    I found it for US$ 160 on ebay. Do you think this is the best camera for this price or is there some other you would prefer if you would buy?

    Thanks.

    • 174 networkcameracritic
      February 18, 2013 at 6:10 pm

      Absolutely, can’t imagine over a billion people and only one camera company. Aote and IPSCam both sell cameras of similar quality for even less than Dahua. I’ll try and get one or two for a review.

      • February 23, 2013 at 5:20 pm

        Thanks. Your blog is great!

        I saw a video on youtube (“IPS-WDR Read car plate positive side”):

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dr2I8Y3A8Q

        and the interesting thing is that it seems we can read the car plate with this camera. But I don’t know if they kind of recorded it in a controlled situation. This is a kind of test I think is interesting, because with many other cameras, at least when in night mode (infrared) the plate is simply unreadable.

      • 176 Mikko
        March 25, 2014 at 11:43 am

        Any thoughts wrt Aote cameras?

        I’m a newbie and want to setup couple cameras outdoor to monitor the activity in the neighborhood.

        I see that there are some very inexpensive Aote 5MP cameras on eBay (e.g. AOTE W511bG-B-POE 5MP) in $130-150 price range (shipped).

        How would these 5MP cameras compare to Hikvision 3MP cameras (e.g. DS-2CD2032-I)?

        The latter sell in $180-200 price range.

        Usually, you get what you are paying for so I’m definitely bit hesitant going with Aote.

        I don’t need PTZ or audio so fixed bullet camera probably would suffice.

        BTW, kudos regarding your site!

        Thanks!

        • 177 networkcameracritic
          March 25, 2014 at 11:50 am

          Aote is a small manufacturer in China, so your risk is that it doesn’t work the way you want or with your NVR or NVR software. At one time I tried to get a camera to review but there was too much confusion in the company so didn’t pursue it. Also, they don’t attend any U.S. trade shows, so hard to see what the cameras look like in person or how well they work. Maybe they will break the trend and attend the ISC West show next week, the largest in the U.S.

          • 178 Mikko
            March 25, 2014 at 1:52 pm

            I appreciate the reply – Thanks. And yes, I agree with you, i.e. if it’s too good to be true, it usually is.

            Because of that, yesterday I did order a pair of Swann cameras from Costco (759675) but now that I’m reading your posts, below you mentioned that these Costco cameras are not 3MP, but 2MP.
            However when I read the description, it states “Number of Effective Pixels: 2048 x 1536 (3 megapixels)”. Is this not accurate? Or am I just reading this incorrectly?
            I saw some other posts indicating that these Swann cameras were just rebranded Hikvision cameras.

            I’m going through the effort of putting in cameras so I rather get something that picture clarity is good, so if there is something going on, there is sufficient detail to follow up.

            I would like to stay in the $150-200 range.

            Any recommendations for source (where to buy)?
            I can certainly just google things (which is what I’ve been doing) but sometimes that’s not the best thing to do. I do see Hikvision cameras for example on eBay.

          • 179 networkcameracritic
            March 25, 2014 at 2:06 pm

            Get the real Hikvision cameras at WrightwoodSurveillance.com, starts at $168, free shipping, no tax and comes in different lens sizes. They are doing maintenance on their site to allow for credit card transaction but should be up later today.

  54. 180 Camera Noob
    February 20, 2013 at 1:40 am

    Can I ask how high you typically mount your permanent bullet cameras? As I was reading though your reviews a lot of the picture look like the cameras are mounted pretty low, but I wasn’t sure if that was just because you were reviewing them or not. I’m have some spots about 8-10′ and am trying to decide if a bullet would be OK, or if I should get additional dome cameras instead.

    Thanks!

    • 181 networkcameracritic
      February 20, 2013 at 9:39 am

      THe back of the wire runs just above the floor of the garage attic, so I would say about 8 1/2′. Clearly you don’t want it too low where people can get to it and not so high where all you see is tops of people’s heads.

      • 182 Camera Noob
        February 20, 2013 at 5:37 pm

        Thanks. I was just having a hard time deciding what ‘too low’ really is (just over normal standing height, 10′, 12′, etc…). I took a bunch of sample shots tonight from various positions and the 10-12′ ones are clearly better than the ones from the second story, but I was worried that was just too low for bullets and I’d have to replace all the cameras I purchased with domes.

        Thanks again.

  55. 183 Camera Noob
    February 20, 2013 at 1:44 am

    You reference the ZyXEL ES1100-16P 16-port PoE Switch in a lot of the posts I’ve seen on your blog and the CCTV forums. This switch is on sale at NewEgg until the 24th for $109 with instant discount and promo code for anyone looking to pick one up … seems like a decent price.

    Thanks again for all the great info you provide!

  56. 184 Camera Noob
    February 20, 2013 at 10:55 pm

    The 4-Bullet Camera package with the 8-Channel DVR (normally $1,200 and up) is currently available at Sam’s club for $799 (online only) with free shipping, so it’s only $100 more for the additional 4 cameras compared to Costco’s package. Seems like a great deal! Valid from 2/14/2013 to 3/7/2013 while supplies last.

    http://www.samsclub.com/sams/8-ch-4-cam-nvr-sys-4-hd-720p-ip-bul/prod9130159.ip?sprodId=prod9130159#desc

  57. 186 Camera Noob
    February 20, 2013 at 11:49 pm

    It’s almost too good of a find … I’m now struggling to decide if I return the Costco system and buy a pair of cameras or just keep both since I need 6 cameras :)

  58. 189 Warren
    February 27, 2013 at 12:23 pm

    I got two of these cameras from Costco and so far so good. I don’t use an NVR – just using them as IP cameras. The docs are pretty terrible but I’ve been able to figure out most things.

    I’m able to access them remotely from IE but not Chrome or Safari on my Mac. It looks like it’s using QuickTime on mac and uses RTSP on port 554 which I haven’t forwarded (yet). I assume once I forward it correctly it will work just fine.

    This is where I’m confused though. I set the cameras to have static IP addresses on my local network. I couldn’t forward the same port to different IP addresses, so I changed the default ports on one of them from 85 and 37777 to something else. Then I could forward those ports to the unique camera IP addresses and access them remotely.

    What I really want is to embed an RTSP stream and/or periodic snapshots into a web page (using http://ip-address:9988/onvif/media_service/snapshot as specified above).

    But if port 9988 cannot be changed, how can I take a snapshot from each camera remotely? The router will only forward that port to one of them. Am I missing something?

    • 190 Oyvind
      February 27, 2013 at 3:46 pm

      Hi,

      Most routers will allow you to forward a specific external port to a different internal port number. Say you had three cameras on your network, all of them responding to port 9988, you could do this:

      :9988 -> :9988
      :9989 -> :9988
      :9990 -> :9988

      In other words, external requests for port 9988 goes to cam1 on port 9988, requests for port 9989 goes to cam2 (also on port 9988, of course), and so on.

  59. 192 VBVBVBOGDANOV
    March 7, 2013 at 4:38 am

    Hi,

    Wanted to check if anyone ordered from empiresecuritycameras.com and see how their expiriance was? Did they provide support? Firmware updates? Etc.

    Cheers,
    VB

  60. 194 Marty
    March 7, 2013 at 10:32 am

    Good and bad for me.

    I ordered one from them from their eBay store. It went very well and I got the camera in record time…of course they are HQ in my home state. I emailed them a question about lenses and never even heard back, so I guess their support stinks.

    • 195 networkcameracritic
      March 7, 2013 at 10:47 am

      Most of the time it works out, I have no doubt about that. The issues is the small percentage where things don’t work out, will they be there for you. Normally, this isn’t even an issue. For example, I can buy an ACTi or Axis camera and never see or care about who I bought it from and if I have a problem, Axis or ACTi is there for me in many ways, to answer my questions, to fix it when it breaks, to provide a way to report bugs and get them fixed. I think soon the balance of value for Dahua will change where other brands will be providing similar cameras for comperable prices. Look at ACTi, 3MP mini bullet for not much more than you are paying for a Dahua 1.3MP mini bullet.

  61. 196 JeffL
    March 7, 2013 at 2:19 pm

    When you say that the ACTi’s are not much more than Dahua… The ACTi 1MP mini bullet (E41) looks like it’s about twice the price of the Dahua at the above mentioned web site. Am I missing something or just not looking in the best places for best ACTi pricing?

    • 197 networkcameracritic
      March 7, 2013 at 2:52 pm

      And maybe twice the camera, no I was comparing it to their “D” series, under $200. ACTi decided to make their cameras take on different features at different price points, same camera, different features. So if you need audio and other features of the “E” series, then pay more, if not, pay less.

  62. 198 Greg
    March 7, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Anybody running 2.100.QS00.9.R, build : 2012-12-07 on their Q-See QCN7001B’s? As far as I can tell, the most recent firmware update on Q-see’s website is from 2012-09-27.

    I’m curious because I bought these units from the Costco website and when the package showed up, the manufacturer tampering tape on the camera boxes was cut as if the cameras had be opened. I’m wondering if perhaps the units were removed from their original boxes, updated, and then repacked as my firmware seems pretty new.

  63. 199 darethehair
    March 15, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    OK guys, time for me to jump in with my newbie questions :)

    In short, wondering about using a camera like this for town ‘tourism’ purposes. Though I have dabbled for years with ‘indoor’ webcams/IPcams, I have never been able to afford/justify an ‘outdoor’ IP cam like this for my hobby uses. Am I to understand that to have a complete streaming website with this camera is the following:

    1) This camera (though the IR lights are useless for me)

    2) A POE injector like this:

    http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=33-997-219&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29#scrollFullInfo

    3) A router hooked to the internet (of course) and a regular ethernet cable (with a hole drilled to the ‘outside’ world)

    4) A streaming service like the following (which I note other tourist sites use) which needs H264/RTSP IP cameras to work properly:

    http://www.streamdays.com/home

    One area that I am unclear on is minimum temperatures — where I live it can go down to -40C. Would this break the camera, or simply make it not work? What about rain?

    I am a Linux guy, so by all means I want to avoid any proprietary ‘Windows only’ functionality :)

    Thanks!

    • 200 networkcameracritic
      March 15, 2013 at 1:42 pm

      Read my article on embedding the video on a website as this is probably want to do. Any direct access to the camera requires IE, can’t be accessed from Linux.

      • 201 darethehair
        March 15, 2013 at 2:03 pm

        Thanks! Yes, the article is good (even though I would probably give VLC another chance under Linux), but what about basic hardware/environment requirements? Do I need some strong correction on any of my points?

        As for the ‘IE’ issue, I am assuming that after initial setup there might not be a strong need to make further adjustments (?) — though it makes me wonder if it is possible to *remotely* make changes (with appropriate router ports being open) using a Windows PC?

        • 202 networkcameracritic
          March 15, 2013 at 2:38 pm

          You should be able to connect to the camera with any browser on Linux and change parameters but not see video, which would make it hard if the purpose is to make a visual change like contrast, color, set motion detect zone and things like that. Also, you can do what I do on my Macbook is run a hypervisor like VirtualBox and run Windows to run what you can only run on Windows.

          • 203 darethehair
            March 15, 2013 at 2:44 pm

            OK, that explains it a bit better for me. I also use VirtualBox on Linux, so I know what you are referring to. If this plan actually was set into motion, it would most likely be a Windows-based PC that would be nearby for configuration (not my own). If a person knew the dynamic IP address of the router, and the port of the IP camera, I guess it would be possible to control the camera over the internet?

          • 204 networkcameracritic
            March 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm

            Easier than you may think. You can control the camera via ONVIF, no password required. You can telnet into the camera, fixed password, can’t be changed and Dahua gives you 3 userids that you can’t delete and most people never change the passwords on the other two (888888 & 666666). But if you stream like in my example or use VLC, Wowsa, Red5, or other streaming software then you are not exposing the camera to the internet, just the PC doing the streaming and then you have more control. Or use a streaming service, then nobody knows your IP. But streaming services are expensive. How much is the one you mentioned. Says starts at $39/mo but what is it really for a 720P camera? Do they charge by bandwidth, active users.

          • 205 darethehair
            March 15, 2013 at 3:49 pm

            I am actually very amazed that for around $150 one can have a wired IP camera with these capabilities! Although I am doing research on behalf of a town council interested in having a tourism ‘webcam’, the costs involved are small enough that I could consider it for myself as well. I have never used a POE injector though, which is why it was one of my questions…

            On the other hand, I cannot personally afford $39/month for that slick streamer service, but perhaps the town can. If they just want a static image, then a good quality USB Webcam would be good enough :)

          • 206 networkcameracritic
            March 15, 2013 at 4:12 pm

            A USB Webcam is not just good enough, it’s way better because while security camera use RTSP protocol that must be converted, the USB cam can be embedded on a website directly. Of course a USB Webcam does require it be constantly connected to a PC so not sure if there’s a huge savings there. Most communities already have a web server, so adding streaming software may not be a big deal. Just have to use a really slow frame rate and lower resolution so it doesn’t kill their network connection. Personally, I use a fixed image. For example, there’s an URL you can use to get a current still image from the camera and that may make more sense as you can use the full resolution of the camera and not use much bandwidth. Most people that visit community website don’t want to stick around and view video anyway unless you have a town monkey tethered near the camera.

        • 207 Tony
          March 15, 2013 at 5:38 pm

          If you decide on a usb camera how far away will the camera be from the pc. I’m sure you can setup a NAS and have the Dahua snap pictures and store them on the NAS correct?

          • 208 networkcameracritic
            March 15, 2013 at 9:50 pm

            Technically you are limited to 12′ I believe but there are USB extenders. Yes, Dahua cameras can send images or video to an FTP server albeit not readily accessible for a website as the names and directory structures are complex and change with each picture. In contrast, with Axis you can specify that it use the same name and directory each time so you can easily reference it in HTML.

          • 209 darethehair
            March 16, 2013 at 12:29 pm

            The ‘complex’ directory structure for the target of the FTP transfer option is a bit disheartening, but I suppose that anything is workable as long as it is consistent.

            Is there a PDF user manual out there for the various Dahua IP cameras that mentions stuff like this?

          • 210 networkcameracritic
            March 16, 2013 at 1:19 pm

            There some basic manuals, but not very good.

      • 211 Joem
        March 15, 2013 at 2:16 pm

        I am able to access the camera with Firefox on a Win7 system.

        • 212 networkcameracritic
          March 15, 2013 at 2:32 pm

          Yes, any browser that supports ActiveX, but by the nature of ActiveX being DDLs, it’s a Window’s only thing.

    • 213 darethehair
      March 20, 2013 at 3:58 pm

      Time for another question :)

      After reading a lot more carefully, I have noted that some models of Dahau bullet-style IP cameras have ‘fixed’ focal length lens (6mm typical?), but others have ‘variable’ focal length lens (3.3mm to 12mm?). If one wanted to avoid the hassle of swapping out lens, aren’t the ‘variable’ focal length lens models the way to go? Also, does this mean that you can ‘zoom’ with the browser controls — or do adjustments still need to be made manually?

      The IPC-HFW3101C also seems to be 720p, just like the IPC-HFW2100, but with a variable focal length lens — albeit at a (much) higher cost.

      • 214 networkcameracritic
        March 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm

        I recomend vari-focal lens cameras to all rookies since what they think they need may not be what want once installed. Sometimes I’ll mount a camera with a vari-focal lens just to see what lesser expensive fixed lens camera I need. As to remote controlling the focus and/or focal length, depends on the camera, most require that you adjust the lens manually like the HFW3200C and HFW3300C and some are motorized and can be adjusted from the web interface like the Axis P33 series domes. Just beause it’s motorized doesn’t mean it zooms, generally it’s slow and cumbersome to use, meant just for periodic adjustments, not day to day use.

        • 215 darethehair
          March 21, 2013 at 12:02 pm

          Very useful! OK, here’s another: does the firmware in these cameras allow you to ‘crop’ an area of interest? i.e. I am wondering if instead of a mechanical pan & tilt camera, if one used a high-res (1080P+) one and then ‘cropped’ a smaller image out of it — say, 800×600 pixels. And, if so, does the (newly discovered) ability of getting an image ‘snapshot’ for Dahua cameras support this ‘cropped’ view? The image out of the IPC-HFW3300C is 2048×1536, which is a lot of room to ‘crop’ with :)

          Again, at this point, I am more interested in using a Dahua camera for high quality *images* (on a website) rather than *video* streaming, although h264 and RTSP guarantee that video is easily done later.

          I suppose that even if the camera itself is not able to do this ‘cropping’, that the HD image snapshots could be post-processed to do this for you (it would be trivial in Linux with a CLI utility, for example).

  64. 216 ohliuw
    March 27, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    Hi,

    I need an advice asap as I need to buy a camera in the next 24 hours.

    I will need to install 2 cameras – one at the front and one at the back entrances. I would like to be able to see peoples’ face clearly if someone attempts to enters my home while we are away. Would the 2100 provide enough detail? How about the other brands that you mention – Aote, IPSCam, etc? any specific models? The price at Costco for $150 seems about right to me.

    The most important feature I want to be able to have is to be able to upload the video offsite – to a cloud storage or at a friend. I also have a question for the 2100′s FTP feature. Does it keep the connection with the FTP server alive or it establishes a new session all the time? Also, I in the web interface, can I change the port of the FTP server? I would like to stream directly to an offsite ftp server, but would like to change the port since passwords will be sent in clear text.

    Thanks.

    • 217 networkcameracritic
      March 27, 2013 at 5:22 pm

      The Q-See camera with the 6mm should allow you to id someone maybe at 15′. Run it in 1.3MP mode for maximum advantage. I will open an FTP connection for each event. Keep in mind, if your FTP server in the cloud can’t keep up you will lose recording once memory is full. As long as you have a fast enough internet connection, should work, not anything slow like DSL.

      • 218 ohliuw
        March 27, 2013 at 5:32 pm

        Thanks for your prompt response. Could the camera be set upload snapshots instead? E.g. take a picture every second or so (if motion is detected)?

        Or, if it can upload both video and images at the same time, I could FTP to local storage and the sync only the JPEGs offsite?

  65. 220 DGU
    April 11, 2013 at 6:45 pm

    Hi, I have two questions about the motion detection. I installed Dahua cameras with a NVR (4-ch). But I don’t know what is the best way to set motion detection. If I set motion detection on NVR, should I turn off MD on the cameras? Also I have found that the MD (of the NVR) is almost not working under medium or low light conditions. Any way to solve this problem, besides to increase the sensitivity rate to 6? Thanks.

  66. 221 Joem
    April 13, 2013 at 4:03 pm

    I am trying to change the lens in this camera from 6.0 to 4.2mm. I have never disassembled one before and wonder if there are gotchas waiting.

    I have renmoved the middle circuit board with the lens mount. The mount seems has what looks like a geared ring at the side towards the lens. Is this a locking nut that should be loosened before trying to unscrew the lens itself?

    Do I need to note how far the lens is screwed in for later replacement?

    If I need to focus for the shorter lens, is there some secret or is it trial-and-error?

    If focusing is trial-and-error, how much do I need to reconnect to get the camera to function (ribbon, 5-wire, 4-wire to LEDs)?

    What is a good focusing distance? Hyperfocal?

    Any other focusing hints?

    Thanks,

    Joe M

  67. 223 Tul9033
    April 13, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    I leave all the cables attached, but I do unplug the power or POE while removing/installing.
    I’ll then plug back in to focus and unplug once again to reassemble. Focusing is a manual trial and error process. I usually try and get some large text like a Dell server box for example and focus until the text is clearest/sharpest. I set it out about 10-15 ft. The lens length will totally depend on lens spec and even brand.

  68. 224 Joem
    April 13, 2013 at 7:24 pm

    Thanks.

    Is the ridged ring a lock nut? I would hate to ruin the camera trying to loosen it if it is not.

  69. 225 juan
    April 16, 2013 at 12:55 pm

    Hello,

    I have an IP camera HFW2100 and sends alarms have attached detecion motion picture or video. Only text receipt with date and time.

    Can you help?

  70. 228 Warren
    May 6, 2013 at 7:52 am

    Has anyone got motion detection emails to work? I have two of these that I bought at Costco. At first I was able to get them to send emails with images attached. One of them was sending them way to often though. The other not often enough. They didn’t seem to be obeying the settings. So I wound up disabling motion events on both. Today I thought I’d see if I could get it working more reliably. Now I can’t get an event from either of them. I did the email test and both are able to send emails just fine.

    Maybe I’m just missing something silly. Here are my settings:

    In Network->SMTP(E-mail)
    Interval: 180 secs

    In Event->Video Detect->Motion Detect
    Enabled is checked
    Working Period – all day every day
    Anti-Dither: 5 secs
    Sensitivity: 6 (this is most sensitive??)
    Area: nothing masked
    Send E-Mail is checked

    Are there any other settings that I might be missing?

    Thanks,
    Warren

    • 229 Tony
      May 6, 2013 at 9:51 am

      Mask an area you want to detect motion, I think that could be your problem.

      • 230 Warren
        May 8, 2013 at 7:30 am

        Perhaps I did have it backwards. I assume that the blue boxes were the area to ignore motion, but after re-reading the doc I think it the other way. No luck either way though. All masked, none masked, some masked, I don’t get a single email. Do I need to reboot for changes to take effect or something?

        I’m using the firmware from 12/7/12. Is there a newer, or better, version out there?

        Thanks,
        Warren

  71. 231 Tom
    May 14, 2013 at 8:47 pm

    The new firmware for the Dahua versions (2.21 3/2013) adds https login, better help menus, more picture controls among other things. BTW whats the process to upgrade the firmware on the Qsee ones? Is it available on the Qsee website or do you have to call them or Costco?

  72. 233 Tom
    May 15, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Unfortunately no. You have to get it from your re-seller/dealer. Got mine through Empire.

    • May 15, 2013 at 2:49 pm

      Thanks. I sent an e-mail to Empire, since I bought from them too. Let’s see if I get it.

    • May 16, 2013 at 1:37 pm

      Hi Tom. I received the firmware from the re-seller and I upgraded it succesfully. But I notice it isn’t recording anymore events. I checked all the configuration and nothing helped. Do you have problem with recording motion events using the latest firmware (2.21 3/2013) too?

      Thanks.

      • 236 Tom
        May 18, 2013 at 8:11 am

        Yeah I was having the same issue with motion detect. I had to jack up the sensitivity to 6 before it started picking up any motion. This cam is going back for a IR/night vision problem (which was the reason I wanted to update the firmware to begin with, but that didnt solve the issue) So hopefully the replacement will have the older firmware. Have not tried using FTP, I have a NVR.

    • May 17, 2013 at 7:08 pm

      Did you test recording video to FTP? The new firmware seems broken when recording to FTP. It doesn’t record anything.

      • 238 networkcameracritic
        May 17, 2013 at 7:20 pm

        I used the Q-See version of the camera with FTP for months, no problems. I do hear the latest firmware broke this feature, so if you can revert back to an older version it should work.

        • May 17, 2013 at 7:25 pm

          Thanks. I’m just afraid about downgrading because the new firmware contains additional files:

          General_IPC-HX2XXX_Eng_N_BootSpi_V2.100.0001.0.R.20121031.bin (20121031)

          Testing Install Unsupported Method
          Testing kernel-x.cramfs.img
          Testing romfs-x.cramfs.img
          Testing user-x.cramfs.img
          Testing web-x.cramfs.img
          Testing data-x.cramfs.img
          Testing pd-x.cramfs.img
          Testing custom-x.cramfs.img

          General_IPC-HX3(2)XXX_Eng_N_V2.210.0000.0.R.20130313.bin (20130313)

          Testing Install Unsupported Method
          Testing kernel-x.cramfs.img
          Testing romfs-x.cramfs.img
          Testing user-x.cramfs.img
          Testing web-x.cramfs.img
          Testing data-x.cramfs.img
          Testing pd-x.cramfs.img
          Testing custom-x.cramfs.img
          Testing dm365_ubl_boot_16M_norflash.bin.img
          Testing dm365_ubl_boot_16M_spiflash.bin.img
          Testing check.img

          ************************

          As you can see the new firmware has addition files:

          Testing dm365_ubl_boot_16M_norflash.bin.img
          Testing dm365_ubl_boot_16M_spiflash.bin.img
          Testing check.img

          *********************************

          I’m afraid if I downgrade I can brick it… I’m waiting for reseller confirmation, but I really want to downgrade it.

          Waht do you think?

          • 240 networkcameracritic
            May 17, 2013 at 7:43 pm

            You don’t want to know what I think because I bricked a perfectly good hfw2100 applying a firmware update, first bricked camera from a firmware upgrade in my life.

  73. 241 phico
    May 16, 2013 at 6:19 am

    Hello,

    Please could you please tell me where I can find firmware for that webcam ?
    I do not find them on Dahua support website ..

    I have part of the image that is corrupted for some frames (with zoneminder and ffmpeg)

    Maybe there is a firmware fix (I do not have that issue with other webcams model)

    Philippe

    • 242 networkcameracritic
      May 16, 2013 at 6:25 am

      Dahua does not provide factory support like most other camera manufacturers. You have to contact the company you bought it from for firmware updates and supports.

    • 243 phico
      May 16, 2013 at 1:31 pm

      Thanks I’ll ask them but first I must check my zoneminder config.

      By the way .. today night it is raining and I have a lot of false movement detection with PIR and rain drops … Do you have any tricks to avoid that ?

      • 244 networkcameracritic
        May 16, 2013 at 4:25 pm

        Doesn’t rain in Southern California, so I have no tricks. Maybe turn down the motion detect sensitivity a little.

        • 245 phico
          May 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm

          Hello,

          I found a solution that solves both my corrupted frames and
          also the rains drop problems .. but also the bug (insects) attracted by PIR problem !!

          I setup my motion detection software (zoneminder) to trigger only if at least 2 frames are alarmed frames ..
          As those corrupted frame / rain frames / bugs frames are usually single .. the motion detection is not triggered anymore

    • 246 Jose
      January 10, 2014 at 1:12 pm

      Hi friend i have this camera and a ZoneMinder but i can’t view this in the server. I Test different setup but i dont see the camera image. Can you please send me the options then you use in the Camera Setup. Thank’s.

  74. 247 Nomar
    May 16, 2013 at 9:16 pm

    Hi networkcameracritic,

    Awesome review site. Before I came upon your video of this mini bullet camera, I was thinking of a video surveillance system consisting of Foscam 8905W or Logitech Alert 750e cameras. Looking for a 2 to 3 camera system with a total expenditure of $500. I am thinking now of getting 2 of these along with a PoE switch connected to my Cisco DCP3825 Cable Modem/Wifi Router for remote monitoring with my iPhone 4S using either IP Cam Viewer Pro or Blue Iris. The only thing that I’m afraid of is that if I buy this through Amazon, I will have no technical support. I went to Empire Security Camera’s site and it doesn’t even look like they carry these anymore :(

    Well, I’m hoping that I can get support here just in case I need a firmware upgrade.

    Your thoughts on my train of thinking would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks in advance!

  75. May 17, 2013 at 10:18 am

    Just to warn users of this model: do not upgrade to 20130313 firmware. It contains a bug which prevents the camera from recording to FTP, so if you record video to FTP, stay with 20121031 (at least until Dahua fixes it).

    Another issue I found is that ffplay can’t play the rtsp stream anymore :( too bad). I’m waiting Dahua replies to my reseller to see if it’s safe to downgrade.

    • June 6, 2013 at 11:17 pm

      Hi Daniel, I just bought the camera and have been looking for the firmware, where did you find it?

      But I’m glad I didn’t just yet after reading your comment. :) I won’t upgrade unless I fins issues or learn of extra features. But it’s good to know where to get it since I couldn’t find the firmware on Dahua’s site… or anywhere else for that matter.

  76. 251 Aaron
    May 24, 2013 at 1:57 am

    Windows 8 and IE10 have Active X blocking turned on. Don’t count on any Q-See or Dahua IP cameras working on it until the firmware update things with a signed Active X component (good luck). It is very unfortunately that all these cameras/DVRs/NVRs aren’t designed to work with all browsers (interoperability is important to us, not to the OEM it seems). In IE10 you can click on the “Turn off ActiveX filtering” button and the top and it may work. There is also a trick I’ve used to download the webrec.cab, incompress it.. In there you will find an webrec.ini, Right click on it and install. Then it becomes a native plug-in to your system. Unfortunately when you do this, you may make the webrec not work when it tries to load on a different camera or DVR/NVR. Very aggravating. I really hope that Dahua reads posts like these and works on future fixes.

    On my Android phone I use ipcam viewer lite which seems to out perform the software the OEMs provide. However there is a long standing RTSP streaming bugs that these cameras suffer from that can distort the bottom half of the video stream… Again… Hope for future firmware updates. Lots more chat on
    http://www.cctvforum.com/viewforum.php?f=19
    http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33196
    http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31756
    http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33075
    http://www.cctvforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22037 (installing webrec.zip but be careful)

  77. May 30, 2013 at 11:15 am

    I just purchased this camera from Amazon and though it works well in older versions of IE (Win 7), it wont work in IE and Win8. Also, FF just displays a ‘Quicktime’ emblem when trying to view the camera feed. Nothing plays – just the emblem.

    Lots of config options but the lack of being able to actually view the video feed is kind of a big deal. :)

    Works well with Blue Iris but I need web browser access too. On my works PC running Windows 8, I cant view the web feed from work!

    Good review though people should be aware you need Win 7 and older IE to have the same experience as the reviewer.

    • 253 networkcameracritic
      May 30, 2013 at 12:09 pm

      There’s some enhancements that Microsoft has made to their browser where it does not work well with some brands of cameras. I was able to make mine work again by viewing it in compatibility mode. In IE9 or IE10 there’s an icon on the address bar that looks like a page with a tear in the middle. Click on that and see if that helps. Also, many cameras from China come with unsigned ActiveX controls. Make sure you set your IE permissions to allow unsigned ActiveX controls with a prompt (so you have some control if it’s a virus trying to install something).

      • 254 Jack Hugs
        May 30, 2013 at 1:45 pm

        Thanks NCC. I tried your suggestions but now get the message:

        ‘Main Connect Fail’

        I really want to like this camera but only being able to access it from one PC running older software is problematic for me. My Foscam Active X works fine in Win8/IE.

        I bought it on Amazon and so dont think I have any reseller support to get an updated firmware. My firmware is from Dec 2012. I wonder if thats the issue?

        Also, I use the excellent iCatcher 5.3 software and though it lists ‘Dahua IPC-HDW2100′ (note the slight name difference) as a supported camera, this camera has problems with getting a stable feed. I have a bug ticket out to the makers.I will report back. Works great in Blue Iris.

        Thanks again.

        • 255 networkcameracritic
          May 30, 2013 at 2:02 pm

          I don’t have a single PC left with IE8, so can’t replicate your problem and you probably have much newer firmware than me because my cameras are older. It doesn’t hurt to track down the Amazon seller and have him get you the latest firmware. I also have an IPC-HDW2100, very similar to the IPC-HFW2100 but in an eyeball shape and that was my last Dahua review. I had a lot of streaming issues with Dahua cameras and BlueIris initially but Ken, the author slowly chipped away at all the issues and it works very well now and all the videos I recently did including the IPC-HDW2100 and a few Q-See reviews all used video recorded by BlueIris.

          • 256 Jack Hugs
            May 30, 2013 at 2:24 pm

            Hi NCC,

            Its not IE 8, its Windows 8 that I have the issue on. Windows 8 and the latest IE version (10?). So its a problem as I cant ‘go back’ to an earlier version of IE in Windows 8 as it integrates into the OS.

            I will try the Amazon seller – thanks. Thanks for the info on the HDW2100 too, I would imagine the RTSP stream would be the same for both cameras. I can also create the correct ‘known working’ RTSP URL by looking in Blue Iris video settings. When I paste that URL into iCatcher’s camera wizard, I get partial functionality so its ‘almost’ there. Hopefully the people at iCatcher will get back to me soon.

            Thanks again.

          • 257 networkcameracritic
            May 30, 2013 at 2:42 pm

            Sorry, my mistake. I don’t have Windows 8, actually terrified of the prospect that my PC may someday die and I’ll have to buy a new PC with Windows 8. There have been some issues reported with these cameras and Windows 8, I believe on the http://www.cam-it.org forum. Didn’t follow the outcome since I don’t have Windows but I believe it was resolved.

  78. 258 Jack Hugs
    May 30, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    Thanks NCC.

    STAY AWAY from Windows 8 – its horrendous. I have to use it because of work but I detest it. Microsoft made two blunders that relegated them to their status today.
    1. They originally shrink down Windows to fit on a phone (PocketPc) – it died.
    2. They inflated a mobile OS to fit into desktops (Windows 8)
    Both scenarios are just terrible.

    Anyways, thanks for your help. I will go dig around on cam.it forums :)

  79. June 1, 2013 at 6:07 am

    vorrei sapere come funzione il SW di centralizzazione quello da istallare sui pc
    e il vostro SW per il controllo dei traker e in diretta poi con il video.grazie

  80. 261 Buzz
    September 8, 2013 at 11:50 am

    Hey Guys,

    I just found this site and I really like the obious critic and reply from the networkcameracritic ;-)

    I would like to know if the cams found on aliexpress are originals or clones , as the price is not so much expensive… if clone do you have a link for a good worth site…

    Also i see this cam doesn’t work under WIN 8, and that has been launched more than 1 year and would like to know if there is new rev coming or it is just the 3MP cam that replace this model ?

    I’m quaite beginner in ip cam but wanted ideally get a wifi cam as more easy to connect… Is there a wifi model…

    If not what is for you (networkcameracritic) the worthy quality / price ip cam on the market ? I need D quality and nigh view is also important but not the most…

    thanks for your help good guys ;-)

    Thanks for all

    Buzz

    • 262 networkcameracritic
      September 8, 2013 at 12:08 pm

      I have purchased Dahua cameras about a year ago in China because it was the only way to get them. The biggest downsides are the expensive or slow shipping and the inability to get service and support. Recently, Dahua started to OEM cameras, meaning they are made by Dahua but sold under different brand names. They cost more than from China, but offer someone that can warranty and support you in your country, for me the U.S. The trick is finding these OEM’s and where to buy them. WrightwoodSurveillance.com carries a wide range of Dahua products from a few sources. If the prices seem high or you can’t find what you want, email them as they get specials from various distributors all the time.

  81. September 17, 2013 at 1:11 am

    Hi there,

    We have video footage of robbers in night mode where they are approximately 3M away from the Dahua 1.3MP Camera at total darkness at night. On the NVR the footage is semi clear however we would like to enhance the footage and print out the faces for facial recognition. What is the best approch for this? i currently have the footage in .asf format and probably converting it to .avi and correcting the aspect ratio to 640 x 480 px.

    Any suggestion please.

    Thank you in advance

    Francois

  82. 264 noli
    October 20, 2013 at 1:58 pm

    Hi NCC,

    Thanks a lot for this complete review which helped me take a decision ! I just received my camera and while playing with the web interface, I found the magical small button to have a proper aspect ratio in the live view ! At the bootom of the page you see 5 buttons, one shows “W:H”, just click and the select “Original” (instead of adaptive), and you’re done, the image now dispays correctly and not too wide !

  83. October 20, 2013 at 3:02 pm

    Hello- I’ve been reading through this blog, and it is great. I’m trying to decide on a camera system. I have the Blue Iris software that I’m using for a single wireless indoor camera. I want to add some outdoor cameras to monitor my property. I’m pretty sure that I will need at least 6 cameras to monitor everything that I would like to keep track on. That being said, I wanted to see what you thought of the camera DVR setup that they currently have at costco.com.

    http://www.costco.com/Q-See-4-Channel-HD-NVR-Security-System-with-1TB-HDD-and-4-1080p-IP-Cameras.product.100079886.html

    Are the Q-See QNC8004B cameras any good? The price for this setup is $799. I can purchase two additional Q-See QNC8004B cameras for another $349 at costco.com as well.

    http://www.costco.com/Q-See-IndoorOutdoor-HD-1080p-2-Pack-IP-Bullet-Cameras.product.100054309.html

    It almost makes more sense to me to purchase two of the 4 channel DVR systems to get 8 cameras, then sell/ebay/craigslist the two DVRs as I am planning on using the cameras with Blue Iris. I would also need to get a PoE router to provide power to the cameras.

    Any help/comments that you could provide would be appreciated. Thanks.

    • 266 networkcameracritic
      October 21, 2013 at 8:46 am

      I guess it would be better to buy the kit and sell the NVR and hard drive. Frankly, not that impressed with these cameras. I’ve see images from them that show IR light bleed at night where you can see a halo of the lights. I would get the Hikvision 3MP bullets for an even lower price, like these (sold out but expecting a shipment later today) – http://wrightwoodsurveillance.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_83&products_id=267

      • October 21, 2013 at 9:35 am

        NCC- Thanks for the reply. I am looking at those cameras that Costco has on their website.

        http://www.costco.com/.product.100039914.html?cm_sp=RichRelevance-_-itempageVerticalRight-_-CategorySiloedPurchaseCP&cm_vc=itempageVerticalRight|CategorySiloedPurchaseCP

        I’m pretty sure that it is the camera that you linked to as well. I was going to pick up a pair, and test them out to see if they will work for my needs.

        Thanks again for the reply.

        David

        • 268 networkcameracritic
          October 21, 2013 at 9:46 am

          They are 1080P (2MP) where the one I linked to is a genuine Hikvision that is 3MP. Although some people installed Hikvision firmware to make it display 3MP, they found it was not the same quality.

          • October 21, 2013 at 11:24 am

            That’s good to know. When I clicked the link you posted, it took me to a page that stated the cam was Hikvision DS-2CD2032-I Outdoor HD 3MP IP Bullet 4mm (China Ed). It looks like the warranty is different as this is the China edition. I wonder if that would make a difference….

          • 270 networkcameracritic
            October 21, 2013 at 11:43 am

            Hikvision sells cameras in different ways. One way is OEM via various vendors where the cameras do not have the Hikvision brand name on it, but Hikvision will not support or warranty them and they are made to the OEM specs so may not be the same as the branded version. Then they make branded versions for several markets including the US market. Because pricing is better in other markets, Wrightwood is able to get better pricing from the domestic market for less than ones made for the U.S. market but have a shorter warranty, they sell both. Either way, because it’s Hikvision branded, Hikvision will support you.

  84. October 21, 2013 at 12:03 pm

    Okay. Thanks for explaining the way they sell their cameras. I noticed that the China ed displays the days of the week in Chinese, but I don’t think that will impact me as I plan on using the cameras with Blue Iris. As far as I know, I can create any type of overlay in the software that is independent of what the camera can do as far as overlays go. Hopefully, that is correct. I’m watching the website to see if they get any of the cams in stock so that I can order a few to try out. Thanks again.

    • 272 networkcameracritic
      October 21, 2013 at 2:08 pm

      Yes, the day of week is displayed in Chinese vs. the chosen language, but you can turn that off so it displays the date and time only and most other brands of cameras only display date and time anyway. Also, you can use BlueIris date stamp for recordings.

  85. 274 biter
    December 5, 2013 at 1:04 am

    Hello! how to keep the stream from the camera on HTTP?

    sorry for the mistakes – English is not my native language

  86. 275 Tul9033
    December 10, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    has anyone had any luck adding more camera to this Csotco/Sams DVR kit? I’ve got 2 more cameras to hook up to this system and only 4 poe ports on the DVR.
    I’m thinking add a POE switch to one of the 4 rear ports to expand the # of ports available.
    Seems I remember someone in this thread going over 4 in a similar way, but can’t find it.
    Thanks

    • 276 networkcameracritic
      December 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm

      You can add a PoE switch connected to your home network where the NVR is connected to. You’ll need to use the configuration tool to set the fixed IP addresses of the cameras in your network then reference that IP address in the NVR. Sort of weird that Dahua only has 4 PoE ports on an 8 or 16 channel NVR.


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